what's the main difference between a 1300 and a 1800 player?

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GMPatzer

1800 rapid is 99.3 or 99.4 on chess.com I been as high as 1892 and consider myself a strong amateur player which I considered between 1800 - 2199 

I have decent knowledge in all parts of the game but  very incomplete, still get caught out often.

GMPatzer
Optimissed wrote: 

"The clock and time management is a big part of the game, learning to leave your self enough time to win the game is a critical skill." I have no shame in flagging the opponent as they have traded a better position then what they would of had for time."


In rapid, the 1800 can plan a game and the 1300 can't, by and large. The 1300 tries all the time to win on time and so is incapable of improving. The 1800 is usually here to play chess and has more pride and understanding than to like winning on time. The main difference is the ability to plan and not to constantly blunder.

 

RoobieRoo

anything under 2200 is super patzer, please lets not delude ourselves.

MaetsNori

A 500-point rating gap is monstrous, at any level.

The stronger player of these two will be superior at all aspects of the game.

Ziryab

Some 1300s play like 1800s, but only in Arena.

Ziryab
shangtsung111 wrote:

they are both easy

Puzzle rush reveals real skill.

Deadmanparty

So people who think it is worth the mental effort and those who would quit playing if they had to put that much effort into it.

lexiebkm

What about this game of nearly 1300 vs 1800+ ?

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/a-draw-in-an-endgame-against-much-higher-rated-player

mabatqulov2

1300s absolutely suck. They either aren't trying, or they have no chess talent. They could also be new to chess.

1800s are mid.

HangingPiecesChomper

i can't tell the difference, they both hang their pieces

forest_wynn

I think everyone is missing the point.....an 1800 player destroys a 1300 player every time...they just see, analyse, anticipate that much better. In tournament play, an 1800 is strong enough to play 200-300 points higher. Indeed, an 1800 player, starting out totally new.....ie as a brand new player, can obtain a 2100+ performance rating if he is playing well. Just saying........the rating of a chess player is just an indication of how well they perform within a range of other players. If you played nothing but 1800 rated players, you will either gravitate to the top or the bottom of the group....and those at the top of the group will become 1900-2000 rated while staying within that group. When playing stonger players, they get knocked back down to their proper place in the pecking order. It remains for the 1800 player to study, play, and work at improvement.

Psychic_Vigilante

The 1800 player is significantly better in all stages of the game compared to the 1300 player. Take a WW2 German aircraft Focke-Wulf Fw190 and put it against B tier modern day fighter jet like JAS 39 Gripen and you get the same. The JAS 39 Gripen can still lose due to a serious malfunction, blunder on the pilots part etc but that is unlikely. It will be a no contest to put it simply.

-1800 will consistently get better positions out of the opening.

-The 1800 will amplify the advantage due to superior tactical, strategic and positional awareness. The 1300 will blunder regularly due the lack of the same or due to the lack of general knowledge about the game .

-The 1800 will proceed to convert the endgame(if it even gets to an endgame) simply because the endgame is most likely the weakest part of the 1300s game.

Sololevelingsirjohn

The problem here is a lot of players at 900 or 1,000 are putting up games at 90% accuracy with nearly every move best move, and some greats for good measure. I played a guy in blitz who had 86.6 accuracy with every move best move and three great moves toward the end of our game, it was a 66 move game in blitz 5 min and he was up like 2 min as well. he was 950 elo, so 1800 to 2000 here might as well be Magnus.....

Psychic_Vigilante
Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:

The problem here is a lot of players at 900 or 1,000 are putting up games at 90% accuracy with nearly every move best move, and some greats for good measure. I played a guy in blitz who had 86.6 accuracy with every move best move and three great moves toward the end of our game, it was a 66 move game in blitz 5 min and he was up like 2 min as well. he was 950 elo, so 1800 to 2000 here might as well be Magnus.....

A lot will depend on your play too, if you are consistently playing sub - optimal moves it is not that difficult for your opponent to play with high accuracy because you leave them little room for error. I wouldn`t pay attention to the great moves - most of the time they are just the only sensible move in the position. Trust me 1800s have a lot of holes in their play and are not as invincible as you may think. The difference between a 1300 and 1800 and an 1800 and a 2300 is based on the same factors and a few more

1300 vs 1800

-1800 will consistently get better positions out of the opening.

-The 1800 will amplify the advantage due to superior tactical, strategic and positional awareness. The 1300 will blunder regularly due the lack of the same or due to the lack of general knowledge about the game .

-The 1800 will proceed to convert the endgame(if it even gets to an endgame) simply because the endgame is most likely the weakest part of the 1300s game.

1800 vs 2300

Roughly the same as above + 2300 is way more creative in both offence and defence. The 1800 will be hit with advanced tactics coming from nowhere, and the 2300 would seem close to impossible to beat even in winning positions.

Sololevelingsirjohn
mabatqulov2 wrote:

1300s absolutely suck. They either aren't trying, or they have no chess talent. They could also be new to chess.

1800s are mid.

Says the guy with a brand new account 22 games and already 2300? Hmmmm, very (interesting).....