What's worse? Missing Mate in 1 or Falling For Mate in 1?

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EndgameEnthusiast2357

I personally find missing a Mate in 1 I could have won with more frustrating compared to falling for a Mate in 1 and losing.

maphellox
If u fall in mate in 1 you will lose the game, but if u missed mate in 1 the game will continue, so fall in mate is morse
EndgameEnthusiast2357

Let's say in the falling for mate in 1 you had a winning position, and in the missing mate in 1 you had a losing position, then which one is worse?

mtuborgdk

Still. if you fall into mate in one the game is already lost. If you miss the mate in one you still have a chance.

but sure both are frustrating. beside that its more likely to fall for a mate in 3 or miss a mate in 3, same answer as before

actuaryman
A grandmaster missed a mate in one (he was the victim) in a tournament today, I’m sure he has an opinion. I was watching the stream, it was quite the occasion….
marqumax
Depends on the game
exceptionalfork

Yes, I guess it depends on the game.

If the game I was playing at the time was close to equal, I would much rather miss a mate-in-one than fall for a mate-in-one. I would still have chances to win even if I miss that mate-in one, unlike if I fall for one.

If I were in a dead lost position, I would rather fall for a mate-in-one. It was likely I would've lost anyway.

If I were in a completely winning position, I would rather miss a mate-in-one because I will likely win anyway.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

That's why I specified, missing m1 in a losing position, and blundering m1 in a winning position, which of those is worse?

bmunchausen

A move that misses mate in 1 and allows a mate in 1 is the ultimate blunder.

UPChess13

What about self-mate?

exceptionalfork
EndgameStudier wrote:

That's why I specified, missing m1 in a losing position, and blundering m1 in a winning position, which of those is worse?

Oh, sorry. I missed that. Blundering a mate-in-one in a winning position is worse in my opinion.

MagnusCarlson202020212022
Missing
EndgameEnthusiast2357
exceptionalfork wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:

That's why I specified, missing m1 in a losing position, and blundering m1 in a winning position, which of those is worse?

Oh, sorry. I missed that. Blundering a mate-in-one in a winning position is worse in my opinion.

I actually think missing the m1 to save the game is worse, because you essentially lost twice.

EndgameEnthusiast2357
ABZRailfanning wrote:

What about self-mate?

I was going to mention that, Levi from GothamChess actually had a real example of that from this site. Forgot the exact position but it was something like this:

CyberSentry23

Falling for mate in 1 is fine for me I fall for them all the time as an 1100 but the fact that I miss mate in one is just unacceptable and I instantly regret starting that match so yeah missing mate in 1 is worse

CyberSentry23

I mean I don't fall for mate in 1s as much as I used to but I still miss A LOT of them

meme111dndnnd

I fell for mate in 1 unfortunately

meghatiwari1998

yes correct

meme111dndnnd
UPChess13 wrote:

What about self-mate?

Qg7+ is a Mistake and Qxg7# is a Forced Checkmate

meme111dndnnd
meme111dndnnd (me) written:

I fell for mate in 1 unfortunately

 

Forgot to mention it's a 10 second hyper-bullet chess game

So, falling for mate in 1 is easy when you're low in time