when should I trade a bishop for a knight

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sgt_pepper

In my games, I avoid trading a bishop for a knight like it's the black plaugue. Is this a mistake. The bishop just seems so much more valuble, and a much better long term choice. When is it a good idea. Are there any players still that value the knight more than the bishop and suceed in his playing?

Shivsky

Depends completely on the position and it makes no logical sense to favor one piece more than the other.  Search the forums for many a variant on this thread topic. 

AmblingAlp
sgt_pepper wrote:

In my games, I avoid trading a bishop for a knight like it's the black plaugue. Is this a mistake. The bishop just seems so much more valuble, and a much better long term choice. When is it a good idea. Are there any players still that value the knight more than the bishop and suceed in his playing?


http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044723

This a Spassky-Fischer game from the 72 World Championship, I found it helpful to study to see when a knight is more effective than a bishop. Around move 17 or so is when it is the most instructive. The white bishops are restricted by pawns, allowing the black knight to lead the attack.

SavageLotus

In the end, you want one of the following combinations(assuming that you HAVE to trade stuff away):

1 bishop and 1 knight

2 bishops

You typically DONT want to wind up trading away both bishops and have your two knights left. They are awkward and slow in attack. Simply put they are harder to pull off the mate with(even with lots of help).

If the position is totally closed anyway - it favors knights. When bishops are all locked in they lose their strength - the control of long diagonals.

jarkov

as said by Shivsky, depends on the position.. but if you want to see a cool game (the greatest chess game of all time IMO) where white trades off both(!) bishops for knights, check out Ivanchuk-Kasparov Linares 91

Enderman1323

In most circumstances the bishop is better than the knight, however there are circumstances in which you would want to trade a bishop for a knight. Here are several of them

When it gives your opponent a weakness (i.e. recapturing gives your opponent doubled pawns, opens up a hole in his/her defense, or gives him/her a weak kingside.)

When his knight is placed on a strong outpost and/or your bishop is a bad bishop 

When you are significantly ahead in material

Monie49
Open position = Bishop is better
Closed position = Knight is better
Just a generalization
Karpark
In an end game where you might need to attack squares of both colors a knight may be better than a single bishop.
BrotherJosh
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Ziryab

These discussions usually consider the position in terms of static considerations--open versus closed, for example. However, it worth noting that Vladimir Kramnik, one of the leading practitioners of the bishop pair, will often exchange a bishop for knight in open positions when it helps maintain the initiative.

GKHAN03
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AlCzervik

trade your bishops in and you'll get back to v2

demodogs22

Although this thread is too old just thought of sharing my views:

Keeping one bishop and a knight is always the ideal thing.  But after a few glasses of wine, you are playing Chess then the first thing to do is to get rid of opposition knights as soon as possible happy.png

tygxc

B + B > B + N > N + N

ShahxaibKhan

i prefer to keep knights, but its pretty much dependant on position, you have to keep the thing whatever position demands.

xFallesafe
There’s no rule about this. It depends on the position. If the center is all locked up with your oppnent’s knight outposted on the 6th rank, you better hope you can trade a bishop for it😁 Many such cases.
vkppvmsk12

I think that it is okay to trade your bishop for a knight in some positions, but not to trade both your bishops for knights, as two bishops can easily overpower two knights

AlCzervik

if the knight is made of gold.

Kyobir

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