which animal will evolve to play chess with humans? monkeys or something else?
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Jul 30, 2017
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Chimps, perhaps, I think orang outans have some advantages over chimps. They can focus longer on a task, and they can focus better when facing a problem. This has perhaps to do with the fact that they rather heavy and almost fully arboreal. Because their weight they have to think how to navigate through the branches. Chimps are lighter and do not need such skills. But I think both chimps and orang outans would be terrific, talented chess players, as both species have a sense of orientation which is probably more developed then in average humans. The problem is that apes simply do not have the motivation to learn chess.
Jul 30, 2017
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#3
it will take a very long time for any animal to play chess against humans. even longer to get them to the understanding of modern masters. maybe to the point it crosses the over the 1 million year mark.
How would you feel if your cat beat you?
Excuse me. i have been playing chess on here for a number of years, and I am a rabbit
No animal will ever play chess competitively against humans ,ever. There is no evidence that any animal is getting more, better cognitive ability.
Carving01 wrote:
No animal will ever play chess competitively against humans ,ever. There is no evidence that any animal is getting more, better cognitive ability.
True.
Unfortunately there is plenty of evidence that humans are becomming dumber by the day
Jul 30, 2017
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#8
my vote is definitely on corvids
Jul 30, 2017
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oregonpatzer wrote:
How would you feel if your cat beat you?
My cat beats me all the time. Fortunately, I can win agianst him with wrestling, and that's how I keep his claws clipped short so it doesn't leave scratches.
Jul 30, 2017
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#13
batgirl wrote:
Octopi, I believe. They seem to have a chess-player's temperament:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3328480/Otto-the-octopus-wrecks-havoc.html
Yes! When I read the thread title, even before seeing this specific post, I thought "squids". I have seen on 2 different TV shows, maybe the Discovery channel and the National Geographic channel, that in a long enough time cephalopods are going to learn to walk on land and take over the earth. So it must be true...
We already invented machines that are more capable than all of humanity, yet there are people interested in lower life forms playing chess? lol
Jul 30, 2017
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#15
Engines, because they already do - Here on chess.com. Maybe not on other websites
Jul 30, 2017
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#16
Fish-bag, that cat of yours must be genius to beat you. You are over 2100 in daily chess. Do you play easy on your cat?
Jul 31, 2017
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Non-human apes have a great memory. For example, three adult female chimps, their three 5-year-old offspring, and university student volunteers were tested on their ability to memorise the numbers 1 to 9 appearing at random locations on a touchscreen monitor.
The chimps had previously been taught the ascending order of the numbers. Using an ability akin to photographic memory, the young chimps were able to memorise the location of the numerals with better accuracy than humans performing the same task.
During the test, the numerals appeared on the screen for 650, 430 or 210 milliseconds, and were then replaced by blank white squares.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAIGVT3N7B0
We all know that this kind of memory (photographic memory) is essential for us chess players. I think chimps would not only get terrific chess players, but also terrific blitz players. I don't know of any attempt to make chimps learn chess.
However, they are able to do more things than we think. For example, until some years ago people believed that they are not able to learn to swim. Usually you keep them on islands, and they will not escape. There are many examples of apes drowning after falling in water. I (together with wife) found out that apes are able to learn to swim, it will depend from the environment. If chimpanzees can safely interact with water, they also can learn to swim and even to dive. The problem is that zoos is conceived in a way to not motivate them to interact with water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkEOBG5nsQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q916J6rzqno&t=12s
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130814100212.htm
The discussion in this thread reminds me of the joke about the man playing against his dog. People know what I'm talking about?
i think champanzee