Who else agrees that Hikaru Nakamura is the best player right now?

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chessman1504 wrote:
HoldMeGently wrote:

im going to speak for everyone when i say hikaru nakamura is a decent player and has come a long way since 2007( we all know what a year that was..) but will probably never be the best simply because he is not good enough. 

 

~HoldMeGently

Ouch. I would say he's more than a "decent" player, one of the best in the world. 

Haha, you're right.

But. In some circles, 1200 is decent, in others, 1500, 1800, 2000, etc.

For those who aspire to be world champion (I tend to think everyone in the top 10) 2nd best may only be "decent" to them!

P_or
Spectator94 wrote:
KingMagikarp wrote:
Spectator94 wrote:

26 new comments on this thread when I woke up this morning and most not exactly ontopic. Why would people care so much what KingMagikarp puts on his/her profile? It's her/his little space on this website. I do agree that some of those threads he/she started are a bit weird, to put it lightly, but this thread reminded me of some sort of FBI interrogation.

Thank you Spectator94...they totally derailed my topic.  And yes I am a SHE lol.  I know it is odd to see female chess players haha.  And no, my name is a bit different to prevent stalkers (my problem).  

But yes, back to Nakamura discussion...that queen sac game posted was absolutely stunning.  His opponent must have been like O_O

Not that odd to me. I've played a ton of girls and women in OTB chess over the years with rather mediocre results. As for the internet, one can't be sure about someone's true identity but I don't think it even matters. I think what a person says is more important. Anyway, back on topic, I actually had the pleasure to play GM Krasenkow - the victim of Naka's Queen sac - in an OTB tournament last summer. Maybe I shouldn't have gotten myself into a system sometimes even named after him, the KID with 6. h3. I made quite a dubious move shortly thereafter and had pretty much no chance then. Atleast I got a nice picture as a souvenir, lol.

I don't believe you ever played him.

Need proof!

solskytz

I agree that Nakamura is the best player right now. 

Losing (to Carlsen, 12:0) doesn't mean that you're the worse player. You just play differently - that's all. 

The-Qcumber

Definitely the best at bullet! (And yet he claims he doesn't use premoves)

SmyslovFan

Most bullet masters recognise that premove is only helpful in really obvious positions such as endgames. Naka often plays trashy openings that are designed to foil the premovers. He usually has won the game long before premove becomes useful!

P_or

Hikaru castles with 2 hands Laughing. Not all the time but sometimes.

He's just brilliant.

The only GM known to do this.

SmyslovFan

That's cos it's illegal in FIDE. Naka learned to play using USCF rules. It's a hard habit to break.

Spectator94

P-or I can send the aforementioned picture and chessbomb link when I'm back home. Could also add you on Facebook for a minute to confirm my name. Your doubt is not taken as offensive.

KingMagikarp
stuzzicadenti wrote:

Nakamura is the best Japanese American grandmaster in the world.

Reminds me of that quote from "The Martian" lol....

"I am the best botanist on this planet."....something like that hahaha

OAlienChessO

Yes, he is the best player .  Who else? Carlson ?  The Carlsians make me laugh s0 much.

SonOfThunder2

I'm in that with you.

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DogOnTheRoad wrote:

Yup! Naka is the best player ... in USA ... probably.

Not anymore:

Players found in FIDE Rating list 4258
IDcode Name T WT Oth. T. Fed Rtg Rpd Blz B-Year S F
 2020009  Caruana, Fabiano  GM     USA 2787    2829    2665   1992 M  
 2016192  Nakamura, Hikaru  GM     USA 2787    2842    2884   1987 M  
 5202213  So, Wesley  GM     USA 2773    2652    2726   1993 M  
 2000024  Kamsky, Gata  GM     USA 2665    2737    2706   1974 M  
 14101025  Onischuk, Alexander  GM     USA 2664    2681    2650   1975 M  
 2023970  Robson, Ray  GM     USA 2659    2598    2639   1994 M  
 2004887  Shankland, Samuel L  GM     USA 2638    2620    2639   1991 M  
 2026961  Naroditsky, Daniel  GM     USA 2634    2642    2539   1995 M  
 13300580  Akobian, Varuzhan  GM     USA 2628         2661   1983 M  
 2021285  Lenderman, Aleksandr  GM     USA 2623    2598    2664   1989 M  
troll-in-the-park

not me

vinniethepooh

Joke.Has to be a joke.No chance.

SonOfThunder2
nimzobogo wrote:

not me

Explain.

SmyslovFan

Agreed, Swifty, and with Kamsky on board 4 (if he plays), we should be among the favorites along with China and Russia!

DiogenesDue

I'd rather have Shankland, Naroditsky, or Robson over Kamsky.  Kamsky has been nursing his rating for years now (I think, anyway), and is not playing at 2600+ anymore.  Plus he's as predictable a chess player as they come.  Easy to prepare for the London.

Kamsky is good if the team needs draws, I guess.  But the top 3 boards are all players that are not rock solid (ala say Carlsen or Giri of late) in results.  Sometimes they are stellar, sometimes not.  They all run hot and cold.  So, you need some wins on board 4 to allow for one of the other 3 to have a mediocre/bad tournament.

The US team will be expected to finish well, but to actually plan for a win they will need better-than-just-solid-play from all boards.  Otherwise, some other top team will get on a hot streak and take it away.

Shankland actually has done really well with solid results in big international venues...that tournament where he beat Polgar in her last game was a fantastic result.  Naroditsky and Robson also run hot and cold, but both seem capable of beating pretty much anyone on a given day, and I don't see that in Kamsky.  He's not going to surprise and upset a top twenty player nearly as often.  He would be more consistent overall, though.

troll-in-the-park
SonOfThunder2 wrote:
nimzobogo wrote:

not me

Explain.

hmm idk, maybe because he is not no.1 in the world by rating, and the current player who is, is dominating him to 11 or 12 classical games to 0. Oh and also the fact that he is not world champion. He couldn't win against caruana, who is a top player at the st louis showdown. Now, i'm not saying he is a bad player ofc. i mean world top 10 is insane, and i have a lot of respect for his bullet/ blitz skills and one of my fav players to watch, but the question was who thinks he is the best player atm, and i do not. The question did not specify whether this was about bullet or not, if it was the case i would agree. (naka is much better at online bullet than irl) but overall a best player would have to be almost always winning tournaments of all forms. and the general talk in the forum is about classical games. so there you go, have i explained that enough sonofthunder? I am not a fan of carlsen, but he is world champ for classical, and rapid and wasn't bad at blitz, and he is dominating hikaru at classical. 

DiogenesDue
SwiftyMcBishop wrote:

cosistency is what they need, though. As long as Kamsky can consistently play 2650 or so, he will get a great score. Not many teams that I know have a 2650 on board 4, quite rare (except, russia probably- only one i can think of) and there is only one russian player in the top 10. Ukraine hs god chances too, with 4 players 2700+.

That's my point though :)...I think Kamsky is a very "soft" 2650 at this point.

SmyslovFan

Btickler, you make an interesting point. I'd rather have an experienced player such as Kamsky playing on board 4 than the players you mentioned. The traditional 4th board has been Onischuk. I'm surprised you didn't mention him.