Alright, IQ test time: You are in a city of truthtellers and liars. You walk up to three woman, and you want to know if they are truthtellers. The first lady you ask says "None of us are truthtellers". The second one you ask says "Two of us are truthtellers". The third one you ask says "All three of us are truthtellers". How many are telling the truth?
Who else with Average IQ sucks at Chess ( lol ) ?
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Soorat said "open many tricky to open pickle jars"
Have you ever tried opening the Artichoke hearts pickle jars from Costco? Impossible!! -- oh wait. You're in England. Do you have Costcos in England? You didn't when I lived there.
Chessman265 wrote:
Alright, IQ test time: You are in a city of truthtellers and liars. You walk up to three woman, and you want to know if they are truthtellers. The first lady you ask says "None of us are truthtellers". The second one you ask says "Two of us are truthtellers". The third one you ask says "All three of us are truthtellers". How many are telling the truth?
they all lied
Dec 26, 2013
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#266
2mooroo wrote:
It really isn't necessary to respond to every comment.
--- Thanks fo all of these new posts.
2mooroo: To respond or not to respond that is
the question ( etc ) ...
Darn it, maybe I was not supposed to respond ?
Dec 26, 2013
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#267
creammonster360 wrote:
I don't suck, but I don't have a very high rating. My IQ is 131 (which is quite high considering I'm 11). It's funny, because chess is supposed to be a game to test minds, while those with higher IQs aren't always best at chess.
--- Thanks for the post Creammonster, I imagine that the coaches at this site might say that age 11 you need more training.
I knew a webpage (www.sigmasociety.com) where they explain the relationship between ELO and IQ, first of all one must highlight that IQ is not equal to intelligence, it is just a tool that tries to get ones of the aspects of the intelligence. But it fails giving it so much importance for example to the time, the great geniuses weren't constrained to time, they were free to think to make connections, to imagine, to make mistakes and to learn from them since their early childhood, they could explode their creativity. Well, IQ helps to show the rarity a person with a score appears from an ammount of people, i mean one in a fifty (1/50), one in a hundred (1/100) etc,. With this one can make a relationship with ELO for example how many people with ELO raiting are above 2600, and how many are registered with ELO?
continuing. The mean IQ is 100 and the standard deviation can be 15, 16 or 24 between the more often, it common to get s.d. as 16, in the other hand average ELO is 1150 and the standard deviation is 300, so if you want to translate ELO to IQ you just have to solve the next equation: IQ=((ELO-1150)*16/300)+100. Let´s do the exercise with ELO=2800, so IQ=188 that is obviously more than a genius. But i've gotta tell you that it only works with official raiting from the FIDE. For more information please visit the webpage i had posted in the last comment, the author is a very good brazilian chess player, his name is Hindemburg Melao Jr.
Another thing I forgot, that equation is right for professional chess players or people who had spend a lot of time aware learning to play chess during many years.
Dec 26, 2013
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#271
What would be the highest rating achieved by someone with an average IQ ? I'd imagine we'd all be surprised how high it would be. At least 2200, most likely much higher.
Seems a lot of people are suggesting IQ is a flawed concept when reasoning it's relevance with chess because it doesn't take into account imaginiation ... I can imagine at least ... I wonder if anyone else shares my dreams of a better world for chess and chess.com ...
Imagine there's no checkmate
It's easy if you try
The king is unimportant
Every piece can die
Imagine all the pieces
Fighting until the end...
Imagine there's no colours
Everything turns grey
No room for advancement
All the pieces in the way
Imagine all the pieces
Deciding to revolt...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday everyone will join us
And the world will live on chess.com
Imagine no checked squares
I wonder if that’s right
Every piece free to move where it likes
To carry on the fight
Imagine all the pieces
Free from all the rules...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday everyone will join us
And the world will live on chess.com
Dec 27, 2013
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#273
Soorat92 wrote:
I just enjoy moving the pretty pieces around the nice checkered board
I may not be that smart but I can burp the alphabet to J, hold my breath until my face turns purple and open many tricky to open pickle jars, and these are real life skills!
Finally! Someone who knows what counts in life and what doesn't!
~100*-120 ~2000-2200**
~130-140 ~2300-2500
~140-150 ~2500-2700
~150 and above ~2700 and above
(*100 is the average iq (if you scored an 890 on the pre-2004? SAT I (before the writing section was added) then you have an iq of 100 or an "average" iq, with the writing section it's probably something like 1250-1300)) http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx
(**likely peak ratings after 5-10 years of serious chess study/training with nothing else getting in the way (i.e. marriage, kids, job etc (lol)))
I do not believe that someone with IQ 100 cannot get better than master level. I think that everyone with IQ 100+ can reach FM oder even IM level.
I think you are wrong. I think someone with an average iq (100, 890 sat I) would only get to around 2000-2100 with 5-10 years of uninterrupted serious chess study/training. they wouldn't come close to FM or IM.
If someone's an FM or IM you can pretty much be assured they scored or would score well above 1250 on the sat I. prove me wrong. you won't find an FM or IM who only scored an 890 on the sat I. I guarantee it.
but please don't confuse what I'm saying here. since someone with an average iq is capable of playing at a ~2000-2100 level, it means that at the enthusiast level (99% of the population) just about anyone can beat anyone (regardless of iq, under normal conditions/circumstances) and have fantastically exciting and entertaining no increment internet blitz and bullet games!!! which is all we care about anyway right?
I get your point. So you assure me that I will be IM with 5-10 years serious study? I don't think that I will be IM. My goal is only to be CM (in Germany 2200+, NM equivalent) or FM.
I don't know the test you are naming, but I am pretty sure that there are multiple possibilities for that score to occur. If you have a very good memory, can think quickly and logically, but your language is bad, and you get a IQ score of 100, I doubt that it is impossible to be NM if you study very hard.
On the other hand, if someone with an overall IQ score of 120+, but has a bad memory, can't think quickly etc. he most likely will not be NM.
if you have an iq of around 125-130, then yes I assure you that you will be able to become an IM with 5-10 years of uninterrupted serious chess study and training.
I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to everything else you wrote. I am talking about the SAT I. it's an aptitude test taken within the united states that can be used to generate an accurate estimate of a person's iq. see this website if you would like to know more: http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx
oh so happy you get my point. really I am.
Dec 27, 2013
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#279
cabadenwurt wrote:
We have a thread on the go here in these forums about people with high IQs that seem to have problems playing Chess. I felt that this was somewhat elitist and that they were excluding a lot of people. Therefore we have the question as posed in the title for this thread ( and I think that we should exclude all of the geniuses from the other thread ) --- ( of course those who may be Self-Professed Geniuses need to be excluded too lol ).
--- Yesterday we seemed to have some confusion as to why this thread was started in the first place therefore I've quoted the first post above from when I opened this thread. The " Other " thread that I mentioned above is long gone as the person who started it got the heave-ho ( Hmmm, an evil genius perhaps lol ).
I just enjoy moving the pretty pieces around the nice checkered board
I may not be that smart but I can burp the alphabet to J, hold my breath until my face turns purple and open many tricky to open pickle jars, and these are real life skills!