Why Are People So Accusing When it Comes to Cheaters? | -SmartPlayer
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I don’t quite get why so many people are reporting cheaters. I mean, how do they know? Is it the time between moves? Accuracy? Just wondering. Maybe you guys can help me understand?
Does it count for what?
Name a few for me please.
Sep 17, 2023
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it is kind of obvious when 1...a player 100 points below me totally obliterates me, i usually dont report until i see their stats, if they have a bunch of games over 90 percent accuracy, lots of brilliances, close to 100 percent win ratio, thats a sure cheater and will be reported and most likely banned, if they just beat me and i see their games are mostly fair, then i just got outplayed no need to report, but question is why would anyone defend cheaters to not report them lol
The cheating is fairly rampant. By the way, cheating doesn't just include engine use. When a 400 rated player wins 15 straight to win an arena tournament, that's also cheating.
Sep 17, 2023
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Carwasher_Superdrunk wrote:
The cheating is fairly rampant. By the way, cheating doesn't just include engine use. When a 400 rated player wins 15 straight to win an arena tournament, that's also cheating.
yes the good ol sandbagging, ill never get why anyone feels proud of themselves to win a tourney in which the best player is truly over 1000 points lower than them in the standings to rob them of awards and medals....i need awards too but i dont do stuff like that, id actually like to win an honest tourney
I've noticed that some kinds of games, such as the Four Knights Game, seem to have much higher accuracy scores in analysis than other kinds of games, and not just for myself, but for my opponents as well. When I play the Four Knights Game, both my opponent and I usually average at least 80% accuracy. In some other kinds of games, we're in the low 60's. This is why I wouldn't jump to any conclusions based on single games.
Sep 17, 2023
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SamrtPlayer wrote:
I don’t quite get why so many people are reporting cheaters. I mean, how do they know? Is it the time between moves? Accuracy? Just wondering. Maybe you guys can help me understand?
Most people find chess to be hard and they see a difference between how easy they think improvement should be compared to the reality of chess taking a lot of work. The easy way out is to just assume that their opponent(s) must be cheating. The truth, most of the time, is that their opponents are playing fairly, but improving isn't as easy as they believe it should be.
Perhaps some of the problem is from trolls saying how easy it is to reach x rating in the public forum threads, or titled players saying that all you have to do to reach 1000 rating is "just don't hang pieces."
Real improvement requires a lot more than just one quick fix (like don't hang pieces) most of the time and it is literally easier said than done to not blunder - which is basically what this is saying.
If you want some ways to tell if your opponent might be cheating, then I recommend watching these two YouTube videos, but in the future, chess.com doesn't allow discussions of cheating in the public forums. I'll share since you already made this thread, but this thread might become locked and in the future, you can freely discuss cheating in this chess.com club instead, but not in the public forums here: https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum
Sep 17, 2023
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SamrtPlayer wrote:
I don’t quite get why so many people are reporting cheaters. I mean, how do they know? Is it the time between moves? Accuracy? Just wondering. Maybe you guys can help me understand?
Timing. Sometimes when your opponent is in check and that is their only move, they can take approximately 7 seconds at least to react to it.
Sep 18, 2023
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Join the cheating forum to learn how to identify actual cheating rather than guessing
Every Elo 500+ player must be cheaters because according to bots I can beat with ease I should be at least Elo 1200, but every elo 500 player beats me therefore the conclusion must be they are cheating.
This post is sarcasm thanks.
Its crazy funny. Us 500 elos know how to play chess, we know the good openings and tactics, yet we literally blunder on every. single. damn. move.
So many tutorials on openings, early game, mid game, end game, no one ever makes anti blunder guides, those things like gameplay analysis stay locked behind a paywall.
Sep 18, 2023
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Either people are stupid and don’t understand what a cheater plays like, or they are upset that they lost.
Oftentimes it’s both in combination.
Oftentimes it’s both in combination.
Also when it comes to blunders, ELO 500s will blunder a lot yes, but nothing as bad as the ridiculously dumb blunders 1200 ELO bots pull off.
Usually its not seeing the bishop lines from all the way across the board, and falling for fork traps.
The AI always spots forks, very unrealistic, even ELO 2000+ players still fall prone to forking - Gotham Chess guy beat Anna in several 3-5 min games because she still doesn't spot forks in that time cap and she's ELO 2100.
AI bots simply move randomly and 'simulate' a set amount of blunders based on their given ELO score, players are all different, some will blunder similar moves to the bots, most won't. Also I found that the ELO 1900 bot is where the NEVER blunder bots start, extremely unrealistic compared to actual players.
On a recent game I moved my bishop onto A2 to threaten checkmate on the opposite end 7 tile with my queen in position and won, those things ELO 500 players will easily miss. They won't usually miss a protected rook right next to their queen and just leave their queen there which the ELO 1200 bot did, and very often.
Sep 18, 2023
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https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com
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