Chess.com Admins are banning me from playing for unknown reasons. Every time I try to seek, I am locked out, and the opponent gets a free 10 points. They took 200+ points away from me in this manner.
Why are the most chess hustlers stuck on a B class level ?
Who goes there to play them?What do you think the average rating of the people who bet them is.I would guess that a hustler who is actually making a living at it would have to be an awesome player,a pro in his own back yard.A little like the street basketball formidable players playing their game on their turf.

During the time period the book and movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer" are set in, there was a guy there in Washington Square who was indeed really strong. I can't remember his name now, but the players called him "The Sheriff".
His character in the film is the one in the movie sitting with the sign saying "picture or game with the man who beat Tal". In real life, he did beat Tal once, and now many years later although he was mentally ill, he beat everyone in the park all the time, according to Fred Waitzkin.

Chess.com Admins are banning me from playing for unknown reasons. Every time I try to seek, I am locked out, and the opponent gets a free 10 points. They took 200+ points away from me in this manner.

Chess.com Admins are banning me from playing for unknown reasons. Every time I try to seek, I am locked out, and the opponent gets a free 10 points. They took 200+ points away from me in this manner.
they can only do that if u used a chessengine, like half the people on this site do.
It seems to be a technical issue, which causes your games to be aborted before you have the chance to make a move. After a certain number of abortions, each additional abort counts as a resignation.
The issue has nothing whatsoever to do with engine use. If you use an engine and are caught, you get banned. Until that happens, you can play like everyone else. Under no circumstances do you get your games auto-aborted as a punishment.


Perhaps Washington Park is not the best microcosm to put forth as the proving ground for what it takes to be a hustler. That would be like saying that you cannot have a career in racing unless you can qualify for the Indy 500.

There's no such thing as a "realistic success story" for a chess hustler, regardless of rating. Go get a job in software development even for a low salary like $75K a year, and you will be way more successful than the best chess hustler in history. A chess hustler is not making that much more than a straight-up beggar on the streets.
This extends to all of chess, as well. Would you join any profession where they told you "if you want to be a [car mechanic], you'll have to study your ass off, and if you become one of the top 100 [car mechanics] in the world, you will be able to eke out a reasonable living...but 99% of [car mechanics] make nothing and have to work another job just to live on scraps...", you'd be an idiot to do that for a career. Only one chess player on the planet makes enough money to justify the work put in. One.
People that play chess for a living don't do it to become successful ...they do it because they love chess and are willing to never be successful to play it. Chess hustlers in a park are basically homeless people with a more interesting way to get dollars then holding up a cardboard sign. Saying that Roman or any other GM/IM is included as a "park hustler" is BS...they may visit there, even regularly, but they don't make their living there unless they are well past their prime and bereft of other options...

There's no such thing as a "realistic success story" for a chess hustler, regardless of rating. Go get a job in software development even for a low salary like $75K a year, and you will be way more successful than the best chess hustler in history. A chess hustler is not making that much more than a straight-up beggar on the streets.
This extends to all of chess, as well. Would you join any profession where they told you "if you want to be a [car mechanic], you'll have to study your ass off, and if you become one of the top 100 [car mechanics] in the world, you will be able to eke out a reasonable living...but 99% of [car mechanics] make nothing and have to work another job just to live on scraps...", you'd be an idiot to do that for a career. Only one chess player on the planet makes enough money to justify the work put in. One.
People that play chess for a living don't do it to become successful ...they do it because they love chess and are willing to never be successful to play it. Chess hustlers in a park are basically homeless people with a more interesting way to get dollars then holding up a cardboard sign. Saying that Roman or any other GM/IM is included as a "park hustler" is BS...they may visit there, even regularly, but they don't make their living there unless they are well past their prime and bereft of other options...
Well, if you count income from chess-related activities other than competitive playing (commentating, coaching, etc), it's probably more than one. It's still not many compared to most other professions, but definitely more than just Magnus Carlsen alone.

Well, if you count income from chess-related activities other than competitive playing (commentating, coaching, etc), it's probably more than one. It's still not many compared to most other professions, but definitely more than just Magnus Carlsen alone.
I count those chess-related activities as falling under "but 99% make nothing and have to work another job"

Well, if you count income from chess-related activities other than competitive playing (commentating, coaching, etc), it's probably more than one. It's still not many compared to most other professions, but definitely more than just Magnus Carlsen alone.
I count those chess-related activities as falling under "but 99% make nothing and have to work another job"
Most of the work that they put into those activities is also chess-related. Whether you count it all as part of one job, or multiple separate jobs, everything considered there are probably a few chess players other than Carlsen who do make enough money to justify the work they out into everything they do.

IMHO, i believe that the class B players cant advance without study. Class B is as far as you can go with recreational play.

I remember seeing past threads about B players being hustlers and I would guess that's the minimum needed to produce net winnings. The more casual people who will drop $5, or whatever the blitz games are going for, for the experience, the lower rating is required.
A couple decades ago, I was at the Maryland State Fair and passed the booth of the Maryland Chess Association where simultaneous games were being played for a few bucks against anyone wanting to play against a NM. I knew the NM from my being a USCF TD and he had spoken to the high school club I coached. When he saw me, he asked me to take over for him for 1/2 hour while he got something to eat and visited the lavatory. I reminded him my rating was in the 1300's and he said he hadn't seen anyone all day who played like a 1000 rated player. He was right. I played about 20 people - about 5 simultaneous games at a time - during the time I pretended to be "the chess master" and won every one of them.

Simple. Everyone can become B rated player by simply not blundering pieces for free. That requiares a lot of games and experience with just basic fundamental knowledge nad principles and basic tactics. Other reason is that they don't study chess, for 5 min blitz you don't need to know much to become B rated player. Just dont hang pieces and play quick with normal looking moves. Other reason is in order to improve you have to play against stronger players... there are simply no strong players , most of them are beginners.

I don't think one can be a chess hustler and be below 1400, because in order to hustle the experience needs to be fun. The customer doesn't wants to feel like they are wasting their time. That's why we experience the bantar and the gimmicks and from these guys. Usually when playing enough chess hustlers you recognize they are not hustlers but chess players like everyone else. Some are very strong and some are not worth an experienced players time. Most chess hustlers suffer from terrible life experiences so "the hustle" is the only piece of self validation they have left. There are a rare few that are above 2200 and fewer that are above 2500 and everyone in the community knows who they are. In the movie finding bobby fisher, the guys name you're referring to is John Po.
LOL Mick, that is hysterical!