Why bullet ratings are so low?

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Nathan_Kriis

I cant reach even 1900 in bullet. Whats the reason for bullet ratings being so low in comparison to longer time controls

amirhomayoun

That is a very interesting question. Maybe people tend to play bullet less than other variations.  

llamonade2

Looking at the graphs and the median and top players, bullet and blitz ratings seem roughly equal. Like... within 50 points of each other which is kind of amazing (I didn't expect that).

Blitz
https://www.chess.com/leaderboard/live

Bullet
https://www.chess.com/leaderboard/live/bullet

checkmatemark04
My bullet and Blitz are very close.
Timurso

I'd say because bullet is rather hard when you are used to longer time controls (which most people are).

Nathan_Kriis

what is so hard about bullet i dont get it. i keep losing to people who have no idea of chess just know how to move fast the pieces around

Sred
Nathan_Kriis wrote:

what is so hard about bullet i dont get it...

Well,

"...i keep losing to people who have no idea of chess..."

How so if it's not hard?

"...just know how to move fast the pieces around"

Ah! Maybe that's harder than it seems, then.

llamonade2
Nathan_Kriis wrote:

what is so hard about bullet i dont get it. i keep losing to people who have no idea of chess just know how to move fast the pieces around

You're probably calculating too much. At least for 1 minute games you have to be willing to play a lot of junk moves and at a fast pace.

NubbyCheeseking
Nathan_Kriis wrote:

what is so hard about bullet i dont get it. i keep losing to people who have no idea of chess just know how to move fast the pieces around

exactly, only reason I play bullet is to play against my friends who have no time. Bullet is really just pre move to victory

amirhomayoun

But I don't get this. If bullet chess is harder to play than, say blitz, then it is harder for everyone. So the rankings should not be that different from blitz.

llamonade2
amirhomayoun wrote:

But I don't get this. If bullet chess is harder to play than, say blitz, then it is harder for everyone. So the rankings should not be that different from blitz.

Ratings aren't an absolute measure. 1400 in one time control or one website might be 1800 somewhere else. So even if everyone had a bullet rating lower than their blitz rating (this isn't true) it wouldn't mean bullet is harder.

Tja_05

Nathan_Kriis wrote:

what is so hard about bullet i dont get it. i keep losing to people who have no idea of chess just know how to move fast the pieces around

Checkmate them quickly then.

amirhomayoun
llamonade2 wrote:
amirhomayoun wrote:

But I don't get this. If bullet chess is harder to play than, say blitz, then it is harder for everyone. So the rankings should not be that different from blitz.

Ratings aren't an absolute measure. 1400 in one time control or one website might be 1800 somewhere else. So even if everyone had a bullet rating lower than their blitz rating (this isn't true) it wouldn't mean bullet is harder.

True. Thanks.

valexandrov

Natural transition of players as they get better: Rapid -> Blitz -> Bullet (most cases).

So, I would expect the pool of players in bullet to be better than blitz and rapid overall.

Since rating is defined also by the rating of your opponent pool, lower scores may be expected in the faster for the faster time formats.

It just makes sense to me this way. I have been asking myself this same question for a long time.

My ratings: Bullet 850; Blitz 1100; Rapid 1300