Why can't the king put the enemy king in check if it's protected?

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JDzieg

In this position, the king is protected by the rook. King's cannot take protected pieces/make a move that would put them into check. White's king is under no threat as it cannot be taken, therefore it is not in check.

If the black king cannot attack a protected piece(which happens to be the king), why can't the white king go here? 

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I am just interested as to why this isn't the case.

sawdof
JDzieg wrote:
 

In this position, the king is protected by the rook. King's cannot take protected pieces/make a move that would put them into check. ...

https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-king

"When a king is attacked, it is in check. A king cannot move into check (that is considered an illegal move),"

JDzieg
But at the same time, an enemy king cannot attack a piece that is protected. Doesn’t this overrule that as the piece cannot be taken?
sawdof
JDzieg wrote:
But at the same time, an enemy king cannot attack a piece that is protected. Doesn’t this overrule that as the piece cannot be taken?

Which violation happens first?

Martin_Stahl
JDzieg wrote:
But at the same time, an enemy king cannot attack a piece that is protected. Doesn’t this overrule that as the piece cannot be taken?

If you were able to take a protected piece, putting your king in check, why couldn't your opponent do the same?

Pinned pieces still attack squares they could move to if they were not pinned and a king can never move into an attacked square and no piece can be moved if that exposes your king to an attack (check) by a pinned piece.

JDzieg
I understand now, the king has to first move into a position where it could be taken, this isn’t allowed. Even if it is protected, the king could theoretically be taken by the other king depending on whose turn it is.

Thanks for putting up with my stupidity 😅
sawdof
JDzieg wrote:
... Thanks for putting up with my stupidity 😅

Thanks for putting up with ours. You'll see ...

Proatchess-123

because kings cant kill kings

rakkkkkkkkol235
That's true
SacrifycedStoat
Because black would just take the white king. It doesn’t matter that white can recapture, if the goal is to capture the king that is a blunder
ShikshaWithPraveen

In my college days, we didn't believe in many rules. We used to play without castling and no captures were allowed till the 10th move

Eric41293

Many explanations of the rules of chess are flawed, circularly defining the concepts of "legal move" and "in check" in terms of each other. This leads to confusions like the one highlighted in this thread.

More careful explanations will avoid doing this. There are multiple ways to do this, but probably the easiest to understand is this: First, define the notion of a square being attacked by a piece (which does not depend on check). After that, we can define "in check" to mean, "The king is on a square attacked by an opponent's piece." Then we can state what a legal move is, which will include the check rule: At the conclusion of your move, your king must not be in check.

Fr3nchToastCrunch

It occurs for the same reason that checkmate is a win, even if your opponent can do the same on their very next move. You get the king first, which is the point of the game.

Proatchess-123

Kings can't check kings because a king cannot move into a position where it would attack the opponent's king. This would create an illegal situation where both kings are in check, which is not allowed in chess.

magipi
JDzieg wrote:
 

In this position, the king is protected by the rook. King's cannot take protected pieces/make a move that would put them into check.

So, according to you, the black king can't move into check, but the white king can?

Very suspicious double standards.

JDzieg
What I was getting at was the white rook protects the white king meaning theoretically it can’t be taken. This is what confused me initially, but I know why it can’t happen now
JDzieg
The key point is that, whilst in theory this is debatable, in a actual game blacks king would just take whites
magipi
JDzieg wrote:
The key point is that, whilst in theory this is debatable, in a actual game blacks king would just take whites

In theory it is debatable only if you use twisted, false logic. You are overcomplicating things and that disguises how simple it is in reality.

And it's really extremely simple. A king can't move into check. That's it, end of story.