Why can't we castle out of check?

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Cdub28

Seriously? Why can't we castle out of check. It would make things so much easier.

aastwaea

You... actually have a point. I wonder why it's like this

Marcyful

You bring up a perplexing question...

crocodilestyle1

It is just because the way the rules are. But I imagine when they were thinking up the rules (or altering them) they just thought that it gave the defending side too much of a break - because a vulnerable king is such a big part of the game, it would spoil things a bit of there was no way to punish that slight neglect.

realraptor

Philosophically, the reason is to reward the attacker for attacking.

Since attacking makes for more interesting chess, it's not necessarily a bad idea.

Cdub28
crocodilestyle1 wrote:

It is just because the way the rules are. But I imagine when they were thinking up the rules (or altering them) they just thought that it gave the defending side too much of a break - because a vulnerable king is such a big part of the game, it would spoil things a bit of there was no way to punish that slight neglect.

I can see where your coming from, but I also think that if you could castle out of it, it would be really nice and make you have to think more while you are attacking.

Cdub28

Seems like it's like most sports. Most people want to watch offense more than defense. Not necessarily the truth though.

lfPatriotGames

Because castling is the only king move that allows the king to move more than one square. So to allow that move (castling), the king has to be unencumbered. It's just one of many castling requirements. 

Cdub28

Yeah I know, I'm just wondering why it has to be one of the reqs. I can see both sides, but I think they should at least make a variant version or something that you can castle whenever.

lfPatriotGames

Same reason you can't castle if you've already moved the king. It seems like, why not? Or having moved the rook, or passing through check. Because castling is such a special move, the situation has to be pristine. So a bunch of requirements make it pristine. 

Cdub28

I'm not tryna argue with u. I'm just saying there are times where it would be nice to be able to.

 

Cdub28

Game above could obviously never happen, just an example.

Cdub28

Nvr mind it doesn't want to send.

lfPatriotGames
254957 wrote:

I'm not tryna argue with u. I'm just saying there are times where it would be nice to be able to.



Of course, it's just one of the requirements to castle. Sort of like en passant. A bunch of things have to be just right to allow that move. 

 

snoozyman
Because when you castle, you move the king first and the rook second. If it was the other way around then the rook can block, however it can’t block a knight check.
Cdub28

I'm sorry, I don't think some of us understand my question entirely. I know that you can't castle out of check, I'm just asking why we can't make it a rule that you can castle out of check. I think it would add an interesting dynamic to the game.

Pan_troglodites

There is no logic or a way to ask why yes or why not.
Chess  rules are made this way and this is what rules the game.

Cdub28

I can see where you all are coming from, but can you see where I'm coming from? Have you ever had a situation where you felt like, "Dang, it would be really nice to castle right now" but couldn't because you were in check or it would go through check. That's all I'm asking.

llama47
254957 wrote:

we can't castle out of check

With an attitude like that of course you can't.

Cdub28

Yeah but who would capture their own pieces? It's completely different, this would be helping you. Also when did I say, "we can't castle out of check." Don't quote me if I didn't actually say it. I only posted this to see if some people thought the same as me and some do and some don't, I wasn't trying to spark a full on argument about which side is right.

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