Why can't we have an ELO rank just for games against bots?

I have match anxiety against humans so I only play bots. I'd love to have an ELO that just reflects my matches against bots, so that when I win or lose the next bot matches my new rating. I realise they took away rated matches against bots to avoid ELO farming, but I just want an ELO for matches against bots like I have one just for puzzles. I want to see where my rating would plateau but at the moment I just have to manually choose to play bots of higher levels until I start losing which isn't very accurate. Any reason why bots can't change their strength to match my ELO against automatically? Or is there another app that does this? Thanks.

The elo given to bots is not accurate at all. Most people can beat bots that are rated hundreds higher than their real elo. So I would assume this is why there isn’t an elo for games against the computer.

I’m sorry about your match anxiety. Not sure if you’ve tried this already, but you can play unrated games on chess.com, so there is nothing at stake. I would recommend playing these unrated games because I promise you will find it a lot more fun than playing the bots. 

^ This man speaks the truth

I actually like this idea.  It is merely a no-pressure rating just for fun for most of us.  I regularly beat up on Martin, and sometimes attempt to lose, so it would be comical to know where I am rated vs him.

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I figure it's no different from having a rating for puzzles. That rating is meaningless except that the next puzzle matches your rating so the challenge increases. Why not have the same for bots? The fact that the bot rating is completely inaccurate doesn't matter. It's just the challenge of a steadily more difficult ai opponent that's fun.

I appreciate the comment about 'just play unrated' but it's not actually the rating that stresses me. It's just knowing that I'm playing a person that freaks me out. I used to be a good club player when I was about 10 but at some point something broke and ever since I can't play people without massive stress. Anyway thanks for the replies.

None of his statements make any sense at all.

Dang.

Which of my statements didn't make sense?

While it's understandable to feel anxious about playing against human opponents, it's important to remember that even the greatest chess players in history have had to face similar challenges. For example, Bobby Fischer, one of the strongest chess players of all time, struggled with anxiety and nervousness during his matches. However, he was able to work through these issues and become one of the greatest chess players in history.

Similarly, Magnus Carlsen, the current World Champion, has also spoken about feeling anxious before important matches. However, he has also been able to overcome these challenges and achieve great success in chess.

The point is that it is possible to overcome anxiety and perform well in chess, even at the highest levels. While it may be tempting to try to avoid playing against human opponents, this will ultimately limit your growth and development as a chess player. Instead, it's important to work on strategies for managing anxiety and nervousness, such as deep breathing, positive self-talk, and visualization.

As for your question about ELO ratings for matches against bots, it's worth noting that these types of ratings systems are designed to measure the strength of players based on their results against human opponents. While it may be possible to create a separate ELO rating system for matches against bots, it's important to keep in mind that this would not be an accurate reflection of your skill as a chess player. In order to truly gauge your ability, you need to test yourself against human opponents, who will present a much greater challenge and allow you to see where your skills stand in relation to other players.

I only play bots to practice openings, and I seldom complete a game, so it would be odd for me.

 

Playing chess against bots can be a useful tool for practicing certain aspects of the game, such as openings or tactics. However, it is not a substitute for playing against human opponents.

One reason why playing against bots is not a good way to learn chess is that bots do not think or play like humans. They are programmed to follow a set of rules and make moves based on those rules. This means that they may not be able to adapt to new situations or respond in the same way that a human opponent would.

As an example, consider Bobby Fischer's famous match against Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1991. Fischer was known for his aggressive and unpredictable style of play, and he was able to use this to his advantage against Spassky. If Fischer had only played against bots to practice, he may not have been able to develop the skills and strategies that allowed him to win this match.

In short, while playing against bots can be useful for certain purposes, it is important to also play against human opponents in order to learn and improve your chess skills. This will allow you to experience a wider range of positions and strategies and better prepare you for real-life chess games.

Have you tried playing daily games? I think it would reduce the anxiety, since there is no pressure and you can make your moves whenever you like and think them carefully. You would also get a rating and would know at what level you are.

Just a thought... since you like bots, you might consider joining the Beta program (settings, right at the bottom). They have a lot of new bots, some named after chess personalities (GothamChess, for one... no Carlsen yet, but I'm sure that's coming), and 'coach bots' that make comments throughout the game to help you improve. It's enough fun that I've actually finished a few games.

Hikaru

Your first paragraph is complete nonsense, the sentences don't have any connection to each other.

Your second paragraph is even worse, you "promise" that the OP will find a lot more fun in unrated games than playing the bots - how can you promise such nonsense? What one finds fun differs from person to person, but no, you know exactly what the OP will find fun and what not. This is just mind-blowing.

The post made sense to me and, in any case, contains nothing offensive. 

English is not my first language but I don’t see what you are talking about? Haha I was finally getting confident with my english but I guess I still have some work to do. So the first paragraph is all about the inaccurate elo given to bots, no? I’m not sure how you don’t see the connection.

In regard to my second paragraph, I agree that “promise” was maybe not the right word. I think 99% of the community prefers playing real people over the bots, since the bots <2000 are pretty much programmed to make nonsensical moves and blunder at certain point. I never pretended to know what OP finds fun, I just made a generalization based on most people’s opinion.

Also, it seems to me that you are the only one who found my statements nonsensical.

ArenjiChaos declared having match anxiety against humans. Bowser stated, "I'm sorry about your match anxiety." Magipi declared none of Bowser's statements make any sense at all. Therefore according to Magipi, it was nonsensical for Bowser to show compassion to ArenjiChaos. Bowser, please stop being so nonsensical :) Magipi, please start making sense for the simpletons like me. :)

I also would not mind a bot game rating. I find it more and more rewarding to play bots because I am never afraid that they are not playing honestly... And therefore bots will never spoil my fun in chess. Unfair playing humans do spoil the fun and unfortunately this site is loaded with them. Bots are bad but my chess is also bad so win-win in playing bots.

I understand completely... I'm not an anxious sort of person, but, playing a human sets my heart rate racing. Literally racing, I was in bed playing a 20 minute game and my heart rate was up there like a light jog, I hate it, I completely stress. Even thinking about it sets my heart a-quiver. However, playing a bot, I relax and all is good in the chess world.

I would love a rating based on bot kicking.