Why chess.com percentile is so high

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xDamkiller
on lichess I'm just top 75% with like 60% lose rate on chess.com like 95% top with 60% winrate why it's so easy to be in 95% range???
Martin_Stahl
xDamkiller wrote:
on lichess I'm just top 75% with like 60% lose rate on chess.com like 95% top with 60% winrate why it's so easy to be in 95% range???

 

More active members here that are lower rated than you are and fewer that are higher.

Martin_Stahl
BaurzhanMakhambetov wrote:
TOO MANY INEXISTENT MEMBERS WITH ACCOUNTS THAT ZERO USE

 

Members with no recent games in a pool aren't calculated in those statistics, so that has nothing to do with it.

Martin_Stahl
BaurzhanMakhambetov wrote:
SO THIS MEAN CHESS.COM HAS WORST PLAHERS THAN LICHESS?

 

Hard to say the exact reason but possibly fewer active higher rated players in the pool in question. If it's rapid, that is more likely true.

calbitt5750
Here, at 800, a player is well above 50 percentile. 1300 is a comparable rating on lichess, but around 20 percentile. Unless there’s another explanation, the lichess pool has better players. Maybe chess.com attracts more beginners and lichess more experienced players. To Martin’s comment, I do play rapid, maybe it’s different for the speed games.
Martin_Stahl
calbitt5750 wrote:
Here, at 800, a player is well above 50 percentile. 1300 is a comparable rating on lichess, but around 20 percentile. Unless there’s another explanation, the lichess pool has better players. Maybe chess.com attracts more beginners and lichess more experienced players. To Martin’s comment, I do play rapid, maybe it’s different for the speed games.

 

Other sites start players at higher ratings. That explains portion of it but rating across pools may be correlated but aren't otherwise directly comparable (i.e. a 1200 here and a 1200 there are not of similar strength).

EndZoneX

My theory:

What is the first thing that pops up when you search: "chess"?

The answer is: chess.com

This may contribute to a lot of new players joining on chess.com, thus reducing the average playing strength of the site. Then, users find out about sites like lichess much later into their chess "career", and are much stronger than when they first started. 

In fact, assuming chess.com has the largest player base in the world (which I'm pretty sure it does), The number of players that are closer to beginners is much more numerous on a site like chess.com, rather than lichess. This does not mean that the player base is worse or better, it just means that there is a larger community of experienced players on chess.com than lichess, but an exponentially larger amount of beginners. 

calbitt5750
You said it better than me.
xDamkiller

@EndZoneX thanks for the answers, but I think here is way more reasons why. Chess.com has way more money than lichess simply because of subscribions and paid stuff. So they advetise it on massive scale. Lichess is without a paywall so it's way harder to profit. Massive streamers like hikaru and levy promotes the site because simply chess.com pays for them. Chess.com vs lichess is Perfect example between paywall vs non-paywall. Chess.com is way more popular has much more stuff in it but it has paywall. Lichess is way smaller but it has way less stuff but it doesn't have paywall

dragon_slayer23
I don’t understand
bigblacknasty

well lichess has analysis board.....