Why Chess Should Have Capturing the king instead of checkmate

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ChesserSaudi

as you see here, the scholars mate and the fastest mate are impossible, since you couldn't capture the king. if you couldn't, new Capmates (check mate but capture, that what's ill call them) will pop up and make the game more challenges, while checkmates will fade away, unless other chess games have the rule "Checkmates", You could pick in before a game starts the time and a dropdown having "Capmate" and "Checkmate" also speaking of time picking, can we have endless games? and also more intresting fairy pieces for new kinds of games to spice up custom ones and custom-non changeable ones that are new.

ChesserSaudi

ourobours king has some intresting pieces, but dont try to get ones which are identical to the og fairy pieces.

CraigIreland

I don't see any difference. In all cases Checkmate would just be followed by an arbitrary move then King capture.

In the examples given, what moves could be made to avoid capture?

Arisktotle
long_quach wrote:

I'm pretty sure in the original chess the King can be captured like other pieces.

Rules changed down the ages.

Yes, most likely! Not capturing the king was probably introduced to symbolize civilized and respectful behaviour. Chess players identify with their kings. Capturing their king feels like a physical kill.

The concept of capturing kings is useful in chess variants with many kings. One of the common ways to implement it is to permit the capturing of all kings except the last one for each side. The last one goes by checkmate as we know it! Noteworthy is that stalemate falls under the sword of king captures unless not even a self checking move is available!

UltraDarkMatter
How would Scholar’s Mate and Fool’s Mate not be possible. The whole premise of checkmate is that there is no possible way to get the king out of check, meaning that the next move, if there was one, would simply just be a king capture. All this would do is add an unnecessary extra move
JayH19

Yeah, I don't much see the sense in this change. Checkmate already ensures that the game will end with a King being captured. As someone else already mentioned, this just means that the game will just have another arbitrary move at the end. Also, this may cause confusing with beginners blundering kings and more confusion, and at the higher levels, most people resign before checkmate anyways.

calbitt5750
Arisktotle is on track, I think. We’re avoiding barbarism. Although I wish there was a way to tip your king over in the traditional OTB resignation gesture instead of the soulless click of a check mark.
Honchkrowabcd

Could you be able to walk into check though? That would completely remove stalemate

riseofchess123
I kinda think it would be funny
Kyobir

If you want that, just play the chess game in JindoBlu's 2 player game... There is no check or checkmate, it's all about capturing the king. Plus you can only promote to queen

ThePoisonPawnSniper

So if you had to capture the king that would just be like sudden death chess, you don't have to declare check so if a player doesn't play like he is in check and move his king, you can end the game next turn. I think this is a silly idea, in chess you are the king and the battle is over when you have been checkmated because the king will not be captured, he will be forced to sign a treaty and surrender his for

ThePoisonPawnSniper

Stupid !@#$ing ap posts everything before I'm finished typing 😠😡🤬😤

Kyobir

And even if the king was a capturable piece, I think that the objective of the game should be to capture ALL of the opponent's pieces.

Honchkrowabcd
Kyobir wrote:

And even if the king was a capturable piece, I think that the objective of the game should be to capture ALL of the opponent's pieces.

Wouldn't almost every single game end in a draw because pieces like the bishop rook and queen can just infinitely run around away when in a losing position

JohnNapierSanDiego

no that's dumb

Green_Sleeves

Capture the King is actually a setting on the chess.com variants server.

https://www.chess.com/variants

While capture the king wouldn’t really change very much by itself, it’s often a fun rule to add in conjunction with other rules. The main change in gameplay is that you don’t have to move out of check. So for example, in Chaturaji (a 4 player chess variant), you can move into check and still stay in the game if the person attacking you is also in danger.

Yao_Wang
People will just take all your pieces if they are destroying you but it’s not a nice thing to do but also there is giveaway chess which you are trying to get rid of all your pieces so that’s similar
DejarikDreams

Capturing the king would solve a few beginner questions like “What if the supporting piece was pinned, is it still checkmate?”

Stuckfish
ChesserSaudi wrote:

as you see here, the scholars mate and the fastest mate are impossible, since you couldn't capture the king. if you couldn't, new Capmates (check mate but capture, that what's ill call them) will pop up and make the game more challenges, while checkmates will fade away, unless other chess games have the rule "Checkmates", You could pick in before a game starts the time and a dropdown having "Capmate" and "Checkmate" also speaking of time picking, can we have endless games? and also more intresting fairy pieces for new kinds of games to spice up custom ones and custom-non changeable ones that are new.

Uhh those captures definitely would be possible. The king would move to some square and you'd just take it on the next move. The whole point of checkmate as it stands is that the king is trapped. It doesn't matter what the king does, you can take it on the next move. It doesn't matter if you would lose the queen- capture the king, win the game. So this rule change would make no difference. It would just result in an arbitrary forced move followed by the capture, for no reason.

ChesserSaudi
كتب Honchkrowabcd:

Could you be able to walk into check though? That would completely remove stalemate

I guess? A lot of chess variatons remove check if the king needs to be captured because maybe he can go to a safe square if its nearby?