Why does society hate chess?

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KingMagikarp

It is art and beautiful. 

Yet society sees it as a nerdy loser pastime.

KingMagikarp
stuzzicadenti wrote:

people avoid what they don't understand. and when people avoid something they also tend to criticize it. most people don't ever try to understand chess because of the existing negative social perception of it. even people who like chess usually don't want to talk to their friends about it if they don't share the same interest, sometimes because they are afraid of being labeled. there is an overwhelming image of chess being a sign of intelligence and chess players are associated with being lonely and anti-social. that is simply not true. chess is just a game like any other, but it has a high learning curve. people who start playing chess lose hundreds of games before even winning one, and people who become easily discouraged basically give up and forget about chess, or say bad things about chess players. people who stick to chess and actually try to learn the game, not just to win or lose but to understand strategies and become passionate about chess, usually do well. but it's a long term process and huge time investment. to be a good chess player you have to let go of your ego and be humble, and realize that chess, like life, is not about winning or losing but about learning. and this is a much healthier approach because you will gradually learn to see and appreciate how deep chess really is. 

 

in contrast, the majority of society is shallow and does not possess the patience to get good at chess. we live in a world of immediate gratification. the people who truly can appreciate chess are few and far between. 

Love this answer.  You seem like a really intelligent guy :)

Thank you for your input!

Sqod
stuzzicadenti wrote:

in contrast, the majority of society is shallow and does not possess the patience to get good at chess. we live in a world of immediate gratification. the people who truly can appreciate chess are few and far between. 

So true, at least for American society, where everything is about looks, youth, money, the short term, appearances, emotions, shallow logic, physical sensations, social acceptance, favoritism, vices, and being cool. This starts even in elementary school, where students who are too good are harassed or even assaulted because they make others feel inferior in comparison.

ipcress12
stuzzicadenti wrote:

people avoid what they don't understand. and when people avoid something they also tend to criticize it. most people don't ever try to understand chess because of the existing negative social perception of it. even people who like chess usually don't want to talk to their friends about it if they don't share the same interest, sometimes because they are afraid of being labeled. there is an overwhelming image of chess being a sign of intelligence and chess players are associated with being lonely and anti-social. that is simply not true. chess is just a game like any other, but it has a high learning curve. people who start playing chess lose hundreds of games before even winning one, and people who become easily discouraged basically give up and forget about chess, or say bad things about chess players. people who stick to chess and actually try to learn the game, not just to win or lose but to understand strategies and become passionate about chess, usually do well. but it's a long term process and huge time investment. to be a good chess player you have to let go of your ego and be humble, and realize that chess, like life, is not about winning or losing but about learning. and this is a much healthier approach because you will gradually learn to see and appreciate how deep chess really is. 

 

in contrast, the majority of society is shallow and does not possess the patience to get good at chess. we live in a world of immediate gratification. the people who truly can appreciate chess are few and far between. 

Back when I wrote poetry, I heard the same self-serving stuff from poets about their tragic plight of living in a cruel, philistine world that just won't appreciate how truly wonderful poets and poetry are.

I think poetry and chess are wonderful, but really, the world owes nothing to poets and chess players.

And that's not hate.

bigpoison

Wow! Never expected to read such pragmatic reason from a chess playing poet!

Nipplewise

>Why does society hate chess?

How so? For whatever reasons chess is not really popular, but being able to checkmate at first glance for some leading roles has become a cliché in movies. Chess != chess player. Chances are if you're cool chess makes you cooler.

CAL06Chess

Personally, and this is not an attack as I play chess (and even run a club), but I have found that while there are many chess players that are kind people, there seems to be a higher % of elitists, snobs, and jerks among chess players than the general community - but that is purely personal observation and experience, and could obviously change depending on your own community. In particular, Class Players, especiall 1600+ tend to mock blunders and strategem of players they perceive as weaker (unless brand new to chess - but anyone that has been playing for 6-12 months+ is fair game). Interestingly, expert players and masters (2k+), while I have no idea what their private thoughts are, are at least on the surface much more humble even though they have more reason to be arrogant. I have seen many new players walk away from playing the game live and only play online because they couldn't stand the chess community, even if they liked the game.

Ziggy_Zugzwang
KingMagikarp wrote:

It is art and beautiful. 

Yet society sees it as a nerdy loser pastime.

I think your perception is of a chess player looking at the general public looking at us...

The general riff raff are so busy texting and walking into you that they probably don't know chess exists...

CAL06Chess
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

I think your perception is of a chess player looking at the general public looking at us...

The general riff raff are so busy texting and walking into you that they probably don't know chess exists...

^ Case and point for my post right above his.

Fonzell

More people would be chess players if it was not for the chess players, they are often a strange and socially awkward bunch.

Useless_Eustace

cus chest hates so sietee

Dumbleydoor
ipcress12 wrote: Back when I wrote poetry, I heard the same self-serving stuff from poets about their tragic plight of living in a cruel, philistine world that just won't appreciate how truly wonderful poets and poetry are. I think poetry and chess are wonderful, but really, the world owes nothing to poets and chess players. And that's not hate.

good answer imho

Useless_Eustace

humbles a mightee big word 2b thowin round

zungzak

The old USSR, used chess as a way to forget about politics.When you are deeply concerned about the Makagonov variation, or the match between Bronstein and Botvinnik,you are not thinking about how rotten the System is...Wink

varelse1

They hate us, because we are beautiful!

DrSpudnik

It smells bad.

CAL06Chess

There is also the fact that when we play, we tend to withdraw from society because they annoy us with their more jovial entertainment or we annoy them by making them be quiet - as quoted in a magazine in the 19th century:

"What a dull, unsocial game is chess! Why, look at those two playing in that corner for the last two hours I don't think they have exchanged a word in that time, except, perhaps, "check." They have hindered us from having a nice round [card] game. They look anxious and miserable as though they were each undergoing a surgical operation. Their eyes flash daggers when the music strikes up. They corrugate their brows as they bend over the board and, in short, are absorbed in a silly pastime as though life or honor depended upon the result."

 

zborg
Fonzell wrote:

More people would be chess players if it was not for the chess players, they are often a strange and socially awkward bunch.

Visit any local Chess Tourney and this fact will be instantly confirmed.  Great taste in clothes.  Lots of nervous ticks.  Whatever.

But it's still an wonderful addiction for life.  Run with it.  But remember to shower beforehand.  Laughing  

Lancelot325

Everybody speaks for their own society, and so do I. Since society hates mathematics, philosophy and logic, it stands to reason that society also hates chess.

Ella-Bonjela

Chess is great if you enjoy meeting lots of negative people, otherwise it's a good idea to get out while you can.