Well, no offense to abhishek, but a USCF CM is not really master strength. Note that a USCF CM should not be confused with a FIDE CM. A candidate master title is awarded by FIDE when you achieve a 2200 FIDE rating; I think the people who have the red CM letters are the ones with the FIDE candidate master title, not USCF.
Why doesn't chess.com award Candidate Master (CM) for USCF???
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Elubas wrote:
Well, no offense to abhishek, but a USCF CM is not really master strength. Note that a USCF CM should not be confused with a FIDE CM. A candidate master title is awarded by FIDE when you achieve a 2200 FIDE rating; I think the people who have the red CM letters are the ones with the FIDE candidate master title, not USCF.
that's true, but i still think he deserves some recignition..
btw DonkeyPunch.. he doesn't why either
There is no Candidate Master title for the USCF. There is only "Expert" level which is 2000+. You would think that would be treated like the Candidate Master of FIDE, but no, chess.com does not acknowledge it. I wasn't given a reason either.
They must figure either there are too many of us, or we are too weak compared to our European equivalents.
Elubas wrote:
Well, no offense to abhishek, but a USCF CM is not really master strength. Note that a USCF CM should not be confused with a FIDE CM. A candidate master title is awarded by FIDE when you achieve a 2200 FIDE rating; I think the people who have the red CM letters are the ones with the FIDE candidate master title, not USCF.
yea i guess your right cause it is a 200 point difference... thanks!
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
There is no Candidate Master title for the USCF. There is only "Expert" level which is 2000+. You would think that would be treated like the Candidate Master of FIDE, but no, chess.com does not acknowledge it. I wasn't given a reason either.
They must figure either there are too many of us, or we are too weak compared to our European equivalents.
yea there are a lot of people past 2000
Elubas wrote:
Well, no offense to abhishek, but a USCF CM is not really master strength.
No one is saying that, Candidate Master implies Candidate to become Master, i.e. the step before Master. Like Canadian bacon.
Technically there is a CM title for the USCF, although technically there are USCF titles like "category A," "category B," etc. In fact in the USCF I am titled -- I'm a category B 
, which I think you get by getting 5 norms where you performed at 1800 level or something lol. Obviously these lower titles don't mean much and it wouldn't make sense to give them a free account.
Edit: Actually instead of category B, I think it's called 2nd category, and category A is actually called 1st category, think I mixed those up. Sorry about that.
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
Elubas wrote:
Well, no offense to abhishek, but a USCF CM is not really master strength.
No one is saying that, Candidate Master implies Candidate to become Master, i.e. the step before Master. Like Canadian bacon.
2200 is generally considered to be master strength, and curiously, even a FIDE candidate master happens to be "master strength" too in this sense .
But it of course depends on where the cutoff is. Generally for most people it's 2200, national or FIDE rating -- for example, chess.com does recognize a USCF national master, who has achieved 2200 USCF, even though a FIDE candidate master's achievement of 2200 FIDE is probably the stronger achievement as USCF is inflated by comparison. And in colloquial chess talk people generally consider 2200 and above to be master strength, just as 2000-2200 is considered to be expert strength.
Elubas wrote:
Technically there is a CM title for the USCF, although technically there are USCF titles like "category A," "category B," etc. In fact in the USCF I am titled -- I'm a category B , which I think you get by getting 5 norms where you performed at 1800 level or something lol. Obviously these lower titles don't mean much and it wouldn't make sense to give them a free account.
but those aren't master titles.. Candidate Master means someone who is gonna be a master
yeah I still need 5 more norms and a point to become CM, but trust me im getting to NM!
Suvel_Karmarkar wrote:
Elubas wrote:
Technically there is a CM title for the USCF, although technically there are USCF titles like "category A," "category B," etc. In fact in the USCF I am titled -- I'm a category B , which I think you get by getting 5 norms where you performed at 1800 level or something lol. Obviously these lower titles don't mean much and it wouldn't make sense to give them a free account.
but those aren't master titles.. Candidate Master means someone who is gonna be a master
Going to be, possibly, but not yet 
Abhishek2 wrote:
yeah I still need 5 more norms and a point to become CM, but trust me im getting to NM!
yea lol you are 12 years old and at 2000!
see you soon NM Abhishek Handigol!
USCF 2200 is master strength. You get a National Master title when you achieve it. So it stands to reason the range before that, 2000-2200 would be the equivilant of the Candidate Master (even though we don't call it that.)
If you're only USCF rated you cannot get a CM title on chess.com - you must go directly from non-titled to NM. It's clearly discrimination, but it seems to be justified, for reasons discussed above.
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
USCF 2200 is master strength. You get a National Master title when you achieve it. So it stands to reason the range before that, 2000-2200 would be the equivilant of the Candidate Master (even though we don't call it that.)
If you're only USCF rated you cannot get a CM title on chess.com - you must go directly from non-titled to NM. It's clearly discrimination, but it seems to be justified, for reasons discussed above.
A person with the USCF CM title (2000-2299) is not as strong as a person with the FIDE CM title (2200-2299). How is it discrimination? It's merely bizarre labelling from the USCF to name people in the category below master with a name with the word "master" in it.
-waller- wrote:
How is it discrimination?
It's obvious. The CM designation on chess.com cannot be achieved by a USCF-only player. Members of other federations can acheive it. Therefore, discrimination.
If you have read all of the thread, I'm not arguing it is sexist or racist or even unfair. I'm just calling it what it is.
Yes, I think it's justified simply on the basis of strength -- a FIDE CM is a much higher title than a USCF CM, which is a title based on getting 5 expert level norms or something like that (not sure of the precise details) so they shouldn't be treated the same. In fact a FIDE CM is a slightly stronger title than the USCF NM.
I think they do refer to it as a title though -- for example on my USCF profile, it says the "highest norms based title earned" is "2nd Category." So it seems they even consider that to be a title.
But of course, just because the USCF calls something a title doesn't mean it has to be regarded as significant.
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
-waller- wrote:
How is it discrimination?
It's obvious. The CM designation on chess.com cannot be achieved by a USCF-only player. Members of other federations can acheive it. Therefore, discrimination.
If you have read all of the thread, I'm not arguing it is sexist or racist or even unfair. I'm just calling it what it is.
I'm not even sure what your constructive point is, but the only federation which awards the CM title is FIDE, isn't it? If I only play in ECF-rated events, I can't achieve a CM title either.
I only queried since I actually wasn't sure whether you were aware of the difference; thanks for clarifying that you are!
My friend, Abhishek Handigol is at 1999 USCF and soon will be a Candidate Master for USCF....
someone told me that chess.com won't give him the CM in front of his name even if he gets the 5-norm thing and stuff..
why is this? please help me...