why is 3+2 so much harder than 3+0?

I recently hit my all time best rapid rating so I thought to try after a long time I didn't dare to play my worst time format: 3+2..

I was shocked to see I still preform really badly.. I can play 1600 level blitz at 3+0

but I struggle in the 1270-1320 range in 3+2... at first I was feeling really embarrassed then I looked at many of the 1300s that play 3+2 in their profile are 1700-1800 rapid. then I felt more decent about the situation.

so why is the strength of the pool so different between 3+0 and 3+2?

with 10-30 min I don't struggle cuz it feels honestly that the 1600 rapid pool is not as strong as the 1300s in 3+2...

Had a bit of struggle as I thought you were talking about math.😁

I prefer time increment myself but even in 15/10, I flag.

Blitz and bullet are just not in the cards for me.

Sounds like you have it figured it out…

I am also like that kindof I flag in 15+10, 30+20 (lichess)... but also I can play at a decent level in the extra long games before flagging... also in +0 formats I survive..

but 3+2 every single game the people are much stronger and my level is just really bad.

just thought to make this thread if anyone can explain this phenomenon or am I alone

3 minute players are no skill flaggers 100% real

yeah apparently that's me

I mean I'm decent at 10+0, 10+5, 15+10... but at Blitz I've been playing in the warm kiddie pool now I realize... I'm not touching that filthy 3+0 again

You aren’t alone, faster time controls equates to different player pools, strategies and skill set.

I wouldn’t call flagging or making suboptimal moves a skill in 90/30 but it is in bullet and blitz.

I'm actually ok with blitz even though I lose mostly due to flagging

Cause there is a lower probability that you can dirty flag your opponent

same

lol

3+2 is harder yes, you cannot be laid back and just make "okay" moves. You really have to play well. But that much difference is really strange. I mean it could have been 100 points or 200 points but so much? Idk something is wrong.

yeah exactly that's why I was confused..

I guess I'm just really (sadly) very experienced in 3+0... I can press people on the clock, it's not only flagging skills but forcing them to be able/not be able to calculate, or force them to reject a winning line because it's "not winning enough relative to the time situation", etc... The entire game dynamic is different.. But still I guess this is a mental thing I just need to accept

the 1300s who play 3+2 are indeed stronger than 1600s who plays 10+0 even... the rating dosen't matter it's just how it is

3+0 revolves around flagging. Every decision is made with respect to time. While in 3+2, your opponents can think till like they reach below 10 seconds and still not get flagged. This has happened to me before. I thought I was playing 3+0 when in reality I was playing 3+2 (towards the end,it was a delusion). My stupid brain didn't think for a second but sacked material thinking my opponent will flag when he just beat me badly due to the increment.

yes the difference in style an dynamic are obvious... but just for argument's sake -

10 min vs 15+10 pool feels to me roughly the same strength in the pool, just different game type and style...

3+0 vs 3+2 it just seems extremely un-parallel... 3+2 players super strong

Maybe you know what? You should play more 3+2 or watch others play it on the watch tab

The difficulty of adding numbers can vary depending on the complexity of the numbers involved. In the case of 3+2 versus 3+0, the difference lies in the fact that adding 0 to a number does not change its value, while Adding 0 to a number does not change its value, so the sum remains the same. On the other hand, adding 2 to a number requires mentally combining the two values, which can be perceived as more challenging for some individuals. The cognitive process of addition becomes more complex when multiple digits are involved, leading to a perceived increase in difficulty.

Maybe Because They Are Under rated,Like as You say Their Rapid Rating is 1800,They Have Decent Skill,But Because Their Time management Bad they Keep Losing And Their rating So low.