aland420 wrote:
Yes, but you will gain points if your opponent is higher rated than you.
Yes. It's just like any other draw.
Why lose points for stalemates?
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Geoff999 wrote:
This one has always been a mystery to me!
A stalemate is a draw. If you draw vs. a player lower rated than you, that means you performed at his rating level, which will drop your rating some. If you draw vs. a player higher rated than you, that would raise your rating some. It's really pretty intuitive.
I agree with Mr. Bean, above. You are expected to be able to do better than draw a substantially (theoretically) weaker player. If you cannot the algorithm should at least nudge you a little closer to his level. That way if you continued to draw people at that level, you would gradually descend to the level where you could start winning again, even if that was at or below their level. It makes excellent sense. The ELO algorithm is quite nice.
Stinking stalemate! This is not Hockey. If you did not win you get no points. Why reward the lower rated player. All your saying to them is they have 2 options to get points: Winning and Draw. Why not the same for the higher rated player maybe 1 pt as they should have won. But if it the game ended in less than 50 moves you get a big fat 0 pts.
One mistake is to think of ratings as "points." It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played. A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.
Don't think of a rating as "points."
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MJ4H wrote:
One mistake is to think of ratings as "points." It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played. A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.
Don't think of a rating as "points."
+1 agreed with this.
MJ4H wrote:
One mistake is to think of ratings as "points." It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played. A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.
Don't think of a rating as "points."
Well this is Chess.com and as skiled as they are in Mating they are also just as skilled in Drawing. I can not count the number of times i had 2 options that looked like mate but led to my opponent having a chance to draw the game.
How i think about it is too many players like to draw so we have to think about the points as that is a lot of points as we play several games. And as lonk as we keep score in any game i think about the points. This is not Pre-Season Football in the NFL.
Nothing worse then having a game won in every way just to miss a stinking move your opponent planned 3 moves ago because he knew he was going to lose... for the game to result in a draw. Which is becoming real popular here.
Losers are the only type of players that are ok with a DRAW! I feel the same even if we playing just for fun in any game. I give my kids no slack and same for their friends. Trust me they play me like they are adults when they were 8 years old.
Another point why lose points. Sandbaggers here. They will patiently wait for a chance to win points.
kco wrote:
Hmm to corrijean, I was just about right on this stalemate thing being due.
yes, this topic is stale, mate
LongIslandMark wrote:
When faced with a stale mate, I either get a divorce or a new mistress.
Stalemate record now 0-1!
LongIslandMark wrote:
When faced with a stale mate, I either get a divorce or a new mistress.
get a new opponent ?
Your 2 Queens!
royalbishop wrote:
MJ4H wrote:
One mistake is to think of ratings as "points." It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played. A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.
Don't think of a rating as "points."
Well this is Chess.com and as skiled as they are in Mating they are also just as skilled in Drawing. I can not count the number of times i had 2 options that looked like mate but led to my opponent having a chance to draw the game.
How i think about it is too many players like to draw so we have to think about the points as that is a lot of points as we play several games. And as lonk as we keep score in any game i think about the points. This is not Pre-Season Football in the NFL.
Nothing worse then having a game won in every way just to miss a stinking move your opponent planned 3 moves ago because he knew he was going to lose... for the game to result in a draw. Which is becoming real popular here.
Losers are the only type of players that are ok with a DRAW! I feel the same even if we playing just for fun in any game. I give my kids no slack and same for their friends. Trust me they play me like they are adults when they were 8 years old.
Another point why lose points. Sandbaggers here. They will patiently wait for a chance to win points.
If your opponent planned a move 3 moves in advance that leads to a draw and you missed it then good for him, pay more attention to the game next time. Oh and by the way i must be one of the losers because i am fine with a draw against a higher rated opponent. The only thing that seems to be real popular on here is the number of people that bitch when something doesn't go their way
Estragon wrote:
We need stalemate because it drives idiots nuts, and their hysterical rantings are quite amusing.
OK, OK - let's just call it a draw!
Think about it from the losing side. If you are playing a game and make a blunder, then you should hope for at least a stalemate. There is nothing wrong with this strategy. If the player beating you is not good enough to avoid stalemate, they should not be considered as higher in skill than you are.
Markle wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
MJ4H wrote:
One mistake is to think of ratings as "points." It isn't a scoreboard, it's a relative measurement of your strength in chess based on the results of games you've played. A draw vs. a lower-rated player is an additional piece of information that the rating system has to adjust your rating towards where it should be based on how you've played.
Don't think of a rating as "points."
Well this is Chess.com and as skiled as they are in Mating they are also just as skilled in Drawing. I can not count the number of times i had 2 options that looked like mate but led to my opponent having a chance to draw the game.
How i think about it is too many players like to draw so we have to think about the points as that is a lot of points as we play several games. And as lonk as we keep score in any game i think about the points. This is not Pre-Season Football in the NFL.
Nothing worse then having a game won in every way just to miss a stinking move your opponent planned 3 moves ago because he knew he was going to lose... for the game to result in a draw. Which is becoming real popular here.
Losers are the only type of players that are ok with a DRAW! I feel the same even if we playing just for fun in any game. I give my kids no slack and same for their friends. Trust me they play me like they are adults when they were 8 years old.
Another point why lose points. Sandbaggers here. They will patiently wait for a chance to win points.
If your opponent planned a move 3 moves in advance that leads to a draw and you missed it then good for him, pay more attention to the game next time. Oh and by the way i must be one of the losers because i am fine with a draw against a higher rated opponent. The only thing that seems to be real popular on here is the number of people that bitch when something doesn't go their way
I don't blame people for going for a draw, when they know they'll lose otherwise. I've done it. Stupid not to.
This one has always been a mystery to me!