Why you should find an alternative to chess.com

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FisherWrecker
FishEyedFools wrote:
FisherWrecker wrote:

Chess.com once was THE very best and only site for online chess.

Here, however, is what I have gathered from their reps about why their application continually freezes causing about (1/3 games) by my estimate to be lost due to their poor mgmt of their site, as opposed to chess tactics and strategy:

They don't have sufficient bandwith to support the ad schemes and number of members.  So, when there is enough demand online, they just say FU to their non-paying members, allowing them to lose games due to the application freezing.

I encourage you to contacting their reps to ask about this: some will say the problem is on your end. Others will say they are working on it. Others will say it is an advertisers fault and they are considering "drastic" changes.  Others will say your ISP is the problem.  But the bottom line is that they have known about the problem for more than a year and they have no intention of fixing it.  And as you know, this site is not "free" to non-paying members.  In fact, we generate a LARGE share of their revenue through click commerce and their ad schemes.  And yet they say FU to their non-paying members ... sometimes your games just wont work because we want to count money, not be a chess site.

Why?  I suspect that the only thing they care about at this point monetization.  And like most idiots who go that route, they don't believe that their awesome enterprise will ever really crumble.  I know that i have discovered some alternatives which are not as sexy as chess.com in terms of features BUT WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY PLAY CHESS.

Your 1 1/2 month membership has told you all of this?

Pretty snarky and you clearly think you are clever.  Does it seem possible to your extra smart mind that somebody may have gotten a new account at some point.  Sorry to take tiny wind our of your wit balloon.

Former_mod_david
FisherWrecker wrote:

The message from DaveDtech is balaoney.  They have known about this issue for a year and they already know the cause.  They will tell you to clear cookies, look at problems with your ISP ... same rigmarol.  The problem is they don't want to pay for the bandwidth to support the application given the membership levels and ad schemes.  Another of their techs already told me (3 months ago) that this is essentially true and that they are considering "drastic changes" which - of course - like all their other promises over the last year never materializd.

The previous advice you've been given about clearing cookies etc sounds like the standard advice that the Support staff give when connection problems are reported. If those things don't work - and they don't always - then you can get back into contact with them, and they will escalate the problem to someone more technical; @DaveDTech is going to be that person, and he's not talking about giving the standard advice, but about actually connecting to your PC using a remote tool so he can see your specific computer set up. Please avail yourself of his assistance.

There are a vast combination of computers, operating systems and browser software, and in some of those combinations, Chess.com definitely has problems - please see https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/who-hates-v3-the-most-contest-maybe?page=4 where @erik talks about some of the causes of some of the problems people are experiencing and demonstrates his commitment to getting them addressed (DaveDTech gets introduced on page 5 of that thread).

Cheers,

David, moderator

RoobieRoo

As far as i can tell chess dot com is much less heavy on resources than it used to be.  When version three was first implemented there was an insane amount of scripts running in the browser, now its pretty minimal in comparison, 

FisherWrecker
david wrote:

The previous advice you've been given about clearing cookies etc sounds like the standard advice that the Support staff give when connection problems are reported. If those things don't work - and they don't always - then you can get back into contact with them, and they will escalate the problem to someone more technical; @DaveDTech is going to be that person, and he's not talking about giving the standard advice, but about actually connecting to your PC using a remote tool so he can see your specific computer set up. Please avail yourself of his assistance.

There are a vast combination of computers, operating systems and browser software, and in some of those combinations, Chess.com definitely has problems - please see https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/who-hates-v3-the-most-contest-maybe?page=4 where @erik talks about some of the causes of some of the problems people are experiencing and demonstrates his commitment to getting them addressed (DaveDTech gets introduced on page 5 of that thread).

Cheers,

David, moderator

This is misinformation.  The "escalation" involves someone with a different story.  All of your "customer service" machinations are about avoiding the cost of building the bandwidth necessary to support your application given membership and ad schemes.  You certainly have a right to make money, but a chess application that freezes up on de-prioritized members ... ROUTINELY ... is an absurd way to run a chess website.  You guys have thrown so much BS at me and other members for a problem that you have known exists for a year and you know why.  Once, chess.com was THE online chess website in the world.  You all have destroyed it because you only care about monetization now, not chess.  Must be new ownership.  In any case, this comment is misinformation and empircally contradicted by the fact that you simply have not addrssed and easy-to-diagnose problem over the last year and had your reps spin different different fictions to your members to avoid it.

ErikWQ
FisherWrecker wrote:

This is misinformation.  The "escalation" involves someone with a different story.  All of your "customer service" machinations are about avoiding the cost of building the bandwidth necessary to support your application given membership and ad schemes.  You certainly have a right to make money, but a chess application that freezes up on de-prioritized members ... ROUTINELY ... is an absurd way to run a chess website.  You guys have thrown so much BS at me and other members for a problem that you have known exists for a year and you know why.  Once, chess.com was THE online chess website in the world.  You all have destroyed it because you only care about monetization now, not chess.  Must be new ownership.  In any case, this comment is misinformation and empircally contradicted by the fact that you simply have not addrssed and easy-to-diagnose problem over the last year and had your reps spin different different fictions to your members to avoid it.

If all you're going to do is complain and then dismiss anyone that tries to help you, why are you even here???

IMKeto
ErikWQ wrote:

If all you're going to do is complain and then dismiss anyone that tries to help you, why are you even here???

Some people just like to complain.  And what makes it even worse, is when its done online.  Absolutely no accountability.

FisherWrecker
FishEyedFools wrote:

Some people just like to complain.  And what makes it even worse, is when its done online.  Absolutely no accountability.

Three reasons ... (1) to irritate you (it amuses me to irritate people like you, who find your self-value in faux posturing online as "the voice reason" ... i.e., trolls),  (2) to "encourage" them to address the easy-to-diagnose and fix problem because - when chess.com works - it is THE best chess website in the world, hands down, and (3) because I am mad about all the BS they have thrown at me over the last year ---> note that this third reason undermines the simplistic-minded, self-serving premise of your non-meaningful comment.

But thanks!

ErikWQ
FisherWrecker wrote:

Three reasons ... (1) to irritate you (it amuses me to irritate people like you, who find your self-value in faux posturing online as "the voice reason" ... i.e., trolls),  (2) to "encourage" them to address the easy-to-diagnose and fix problem because - when chess.com works - it is THE best chess website in the world, hands down, and (3) because I am mad about all the BS they have thrown at me over the last year ---> note that this third reason undermines the simplistic-minded, self-serving premise of your non-meaningful comment.

But thanks!

 

Lol. How pathetic your life must be that you have nothing better to do than belittle people on the internet. If you're such a tech expert, perhaps you should start your own site. I've been here before this account, and I wasn't a premium member. I play on a cheap phone with only 3g speed and rarely have a problem here. But yeah, you know everything and it's all chess.coms fault you're having issues. Enjoy living with your stupidity.

FisherWrecker
ErikWQ wrote:

Lol. How pathetic your life must be that you have nothing better to do than belittle people on the internet. If you're such a tech expert, perhaps you should start your own site. I've been here before this account, and I wasn't a premium member. I play on a cheap phone with only 3g speed and rarely have a problem here. But yeah, you know everything and it's all chess.coms fault you're having issues. Enjoy living with your stupidity.

I like how your message contradicts itself.  It is only you feeling belittled (rightly) and only who seems upset.  Have fun!

JustOneUSer
You gonna give any evidence for any of your claims, FisherWrecker?
ErikWQ

Like mom always said, you can't fix stupid.

IMKeto
ErikWQ wrote:

Like mom always said, you can't fix stupid.

maybe not, but it allows you to collect unemployment for life.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

In B4 the lock

FisherWrecker
VicountVonJames wrote:
You gonna give any evidence for any of your claims, FisherWrecker?

Abundant.  Sorry you are irritated.

FisherWrecker
cottonsock wrote:
Fish wrecker your educational capacity, is not good enough, to comprehend the meaning of my post , why don’t you try reading it again........ jeez !

 

LMAO ... your "educational capacity" is shown by the incoherence of that term vis-a-vis what you were trying to say.  Have fun!

FisherWrecker
FishEyedFools wrote:
ErikWQ wrote:

Like mom always said, you can't fix stupid.

maybe not, but it allows you to collect unemployment for life.

Sorry that you have become so unhinged with anger that you are doing repeatedly and obsessively what you claimed I was doing.  I hope this gets better for you.  LMAO.

Former_mod_david

Chess.com doesn't have new ownership, and if you checked the thread I supplied earlier, you can see just how committed Chess.com is to making the website run as well as possible for everyone.

Please contact @DaveDTech for assistance with your problem - if you do not want to contact him but just want to encourage people to leave our web site, I see little point in leaving this thread open - I am now locking it.

Cheers,

David, moderator

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