Will chess get changed, revised or developed?

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StickerFish1

Chess has emerged with its current phase for like 600 years ago, nothing much have changed except maybe like draw and stalemate regulations.

From like 1850-now chess is being played uniformed around the world, we see matches from 70+ years and from Mikhail Tal and before till Kasparov and Carlsen... I say, as obviously the game is just came close to being solved (though probably not), the matches are started getting repetitive and rarely you can do a sacrifice around a GM without an obvious or direct compensation.

We may see that we are just a few steps away from witnessing a change in chess, I assume. Will we see new pieces? Bigger board? or some RNG? (randomness at some level) Or an additional increment (column or row) to have an absolute center block at E5?.

StickerFish1

These variants aren't being played and do have no popularity, they're not what I meant by my post. You can't find a site to play nor an engine or articles devoted for. Definitely they wont get adopted for the new chess phase, if ever.

KeSetoKaiba
RTG-3sim wrote:

...We may see that we are just a few steps away from witnessing a change in chess, I assume. Will we see new pieces? Bigger board? or some RNG? (randomness at some level) Or an additional increment (column or row) to have an absolute center block at E5?.

Chess variants already exist and you can play many of them on chess.com; this includes less popular variants such as XL Chess, Racing Kings, Petrified and many more: https://www.chess.com/variants

However, (standard) chess is held to a different level and I highly doubt we'll see any changes soon with chess or it being solved for that matter.

As amazing as chess computers currently are, they are super far from solving chess and even if they can one day solve chess (and store all the information somehow), I still doubt it would change the play much for we human players.

If chess was solved by computers, then it is unlikely humans will have the capacity to perfectly mimic chess engines (computers) and it would probably be like Texas Hold'em (NL) Poker. This game is mathematically solved by computers using GTO (Game Theory Optimal) strategy. However, we still see many poker players making a living at the game. There are many reasons for this, but one big reason is because poker pros are playing human opponents who can't imitate the GTO strategies perfectly (even at the highest levels). GTO is seen more as a training tool and analysis feature and I'm sure computers will take a similar role for chess if the game is solved one day.

StickerFish1

@KeSetoKaiba

If chess get solved one day by computer, by a certain gambit/opening, for white or black. Then, all of GMs will adopt this opening. If any played an extraordinary move to run from the forced end, then he will be in a strong disadvantage. Similar games like Four-in-a-row get solved, chess is obviously not an exception.

Though I believe humans will never be able to solve chess nor computers, the playing is rushing towards a monotonous, repetitive and semi-forced way of playing. The more we advance on time, the more that we see less-interesting moves. This is what I meant by solved.

@long_quach

Well, sorry for despising other chess games. I don't find any verb than "variants', which chess may be considered as a variant to them. You still didn't answered my question of them not having a recognized website like chess (or the other site) or like FIDE organization.

I doubt they have more players than chess, even if, then absolutely chess is more known. Also chess is consisting of a wide different countries, people and cultures. Which is way more successful than a closed place, I don't feel it's my mistake to not know them. Though by a quick look, I feel they're essentially different from chess. Which wasn't quite what I meant, what I meant is just a slight (or a large) change in the chess pieces, board etc..

 
marqumax
I mean there is an engine for even atomic chess or anti chess, but these will never be as popular as regular chess
cooLLemonjuice

Rtg says that he thinks that normal chess could change.

CoreyDevinPerich

yes

StickerFish1

@cooLLemonjuice. Exactly! This is what I said. If chess changed, this website also will get changed. But the name will remain. Definitely the change wont be a migrate to any of the current cognates. The graphics and game changes wont be as dramatic as a new whole game like Chinese Chess.

@plainbruh. As an Arabic person, these names are correct. We use word Wazeer (Minister) instead of Queen. Elephant for Bishop. Fort/Castle for Rook. The rest are quite the same.

@long_quach. Kindly make a single reply instead of 3 in a row, it's hard to keep track with many replies. Chess ancestors shouldn't be the ideal to stick with. In real chess rules are getting evolved through time. I'm not sure if En Passant, Castle or 2 steps for pawn are a good or balanced things. But I believe they get implemented after long discussions and many analyzes of the games.

For me, I perceive stalemate as an error, like 1/0 in calculators. Which is an automatic draw. Definitely we can't make it a win for the one who didn't get stalemated, as by this a player can have a win by two ways.. By delivering a checkmate and by not delivering it. Lol.

StickerFish1
Optimissed wrote:

Much has changed within the past 200 years, regarding the rules of chess. However, it won't change again, in my opinion, except maybe for small things like 50 move rules. That's because it has been perfected. A different type of chess would be a chess variant.

True, thus what I meant wasn't about a draw, insufficient materials or stalemate rules. I mean the game dynamics. Like Knight may jump 3 step. Or form a perfect circle by being able to jump two steps without rotating, etc...

I don't meant it to be a new chess variant, I mean it to be this chess, it should still hold the name. Current chess may be named to "old chess" or "chess v1600-2023". Also "be cautious when saying a chess variant, as they're higher in a higher degree than this chess. They're cognates, this chess is a variant of them" -long_quach

00DanteAleph00

Chess 960.

The standar chess will always be difficult for most of people but even so we can say that the game of chess was already resolved. And so chess 960 and all the chess variants that are developed in a 8*8 square. it gets complex for engiens only when we add more squares not exactly new moves for the pieces but it also helps.

An example is the GO game. It is complex but not exactly because the moves of the stones but because is sometimes 13*13 and even more squares.

TheSampson

Chess isn’t a videogame with developers active on twitter talking about their progress on the next big update. It’s an ancient game. It’s only really changed very few times throughout the multiple centuries of its existence. There will not be a new piece. There will not be more squares on the board. It will not turn into a 1st person shooter. Chess is perfect as it is. It’s finished. It’s so predetermined, that even if you add a single square, a single pawn, it will have to be a variant. Nobody in the community will accept changes to how the game of chess is played. There is a drastic difference in videogames and board games. If you make a board game and it skyrockets in popularity, it’s not going to change, ever. It’s finished. Nobody will accept an update. Meanwhile, if you make a videogame, you’ll be bombarded with “add new skin pls” “new character coming?” “when new battlepass”

hijabinerd

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DejarikDreams

Get the expansion pack with all new pieces, a different battleground, expanded rules, and an all new quest!

DejarikDreams
long_quach wrote:

5:21 red checkmates black.

5:35

Based on the opening picture, it looked like whichever side had the next move would mate.