Kasparov was the nicest and best sportsmanship of anyone. Name a single bad thing that he did because from what I heard he was humble and modest.
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Matulovic must be very high on the list for multiple takebacks, bribes, etc.
Deranged wrote:
Kasparov was the nicest and best sportsmanship of anyone. Name a single bad thing that he did because from what I heard he was humble and modest.
Is this a joke ?! Try his behavior at Linares 2003 when he lost (with white ) against Radjabov who was 15 at the time. Kasparov isnt a very good loser.... then there's the incident with Polgar where he took a move back.... clearly caught on video.
I'll place Kasparov ahead of Fischer on all lists! :-)
Jul 22, 2011
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Let's see some brief rationales here or examples of the players egotism or bad sportsmanship for instance I've read Blackburne was a notorious drunkard which may have resulted in some bad sportsmanship - like the time he (supposedly) tossed Steinitz out the window of the London Chess Club - which was on the 2nd story.
NimzoRoy wrote:
Let's see some brief rationales here or examples of the players egotism or bad sportsmanship for instance I've read Blackburne was a notorious drunkard which may have resulted in some bad sportsmanship - like the time he (supposedly) tossed Steinitz out the window of the London Chess Club - which was on the 2nd story.
The incident(s) I refer to concerning Kasparov can easily be found using google.
Fischer called Kasparov a dog and a criminal and stuff like that all the time, but he was just not sane. If what he said should be taken seriously he would end up quite high on the list.
Kasparov didn't get visibly upset about losing to Radjabov in itself, but he did get very upset about the fact that Radjabov was given the brilliancy prize for the win. Kasparov meant that he just had blundered in a winning position and that there was nothing brilliant with the game compared to some other games in the tournament. He was probably right but also very upset and the whole thing was just ridiculous.
fabelhaft wrote:
Fischer called Kasparov a dog and a criminal and stuff like that all the time, but he was just not sane. If what he said should be taken seriously he would end up quite high on the list.
Kasparov didn't get visibly upset about losing to Radjabov in itself, but he did get very upset about the fact that Radjabov was given the brilliancy prize for the win. Kasparov meant that he just had blundered in a winning position and that there was nothing brilliant with the game compared to some other games in the tournament. He was probably right but also very upset and the whole thing was just ridiculous.
Huh ? Kasparov refused to resign normally. He stormed away from the board and let his time run out instead of resigning a clearly lost position. He also refused to shake hands with Radjabov or do a post game analysis. This done to a kid no less is rather shitty no matter how much you worship Kasparov.
Reb wrote:
fabelhaft wrote:
Fischer called Kasparov a dog and a criminal and stuff like that all the time, but he was just not sane. If what he said should be taken seriously he would end up quite high on the list.
Kasparov didn't get visibly upset about losing to Radjabov in itself, but he did get very upset about the fact that Radjabov was given the brilliancy prize for the win. Kasparov meant that he just had blundered in a winning position and that there was nothing brilliant with the game compared to some other games in the tournament. He was probably right but also very upset and the whole thing was just ridiculous.
Huh ? Kasparov refused to resign normally. He stormed away from the board and let his time run out instead of resigning a clearly lost position. He also refused to shake hands with Radjabov or do a post game analysis. This done to a kid no less is rather shitty no matter how much you worship Kasparov.
Resigning by letting the time run out and not doing a post game analysis isn't uncommon, at least not enough to be included in the top ten here just for that thing. He did shake hands a while after the time had run out, but the real outburst came at the closing ceremony:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=851
Of course Kasparov behaved ridiculously in Linares 2003, as I said, even if much more so at the closing ceremony. That's not even an issue. Looking back now at what Mig Greengard wrote about the whole thing he said that Kasparov had 90 seconds for his last move, didn't make it, signed the scoresheet, and left the table. A few minutes later he returned, shook hands, and talked calmly with Radjabov and his dad. Mig is of course a pro-Kasparov source, and could be placed in the on this site traditional groups Fischer hater and Kasparov worshipper I suppose :-)
SuperDonitsi wrote:
1. Steinitz
2. Tarrasch
3. Fischer
4. Alekhine
5. Capablanca (If he dont win really!)
6. Kasparov
7. Nimzowitsch
8. Topalov
9. Korchnoi
10. Karpov
I think every great player are little bit bad loser. Steinitz was bad winner too! :D
how is Karpov,Capablanca, and Tarrasch considered sore losers or haveing big egos.
Deranged wrote:
Kasparov was the nicest and best sportsmanship of anyone. Name a single bad thing that he did because from what I heard he was humble and modest.
Man i luaghed at this so hard were to start.
1. 1992 Manila Olympiad...three sacrifices by GM Ian Rogers...yet Kasparov would not vote for this game for the Brilliancy Prize...instead Kasparov submitted three of his own games for the brillancy prize...what an ego!!
2.When he lost a famous game to GM Teimour Radjabov and stormed out of the tournament hall not speaking to anyone.
3. Although Hoogovens Steel Company was acquired by Corus, the new owner thankfully continued 61 years of a rich chess tradition under a new name. The top section of this annual chess festival was again won by Kasparov, but a likely championship contender emerged in youthful Alexander Morozevich, who finished fifth in a field of 14 grandmasters. This last round effort earned Morozevich the daily spectators' prize but angered Kasparov, who felt he was more deserving. Kasparov thus left the windy seaside resort in a foul mood, sensing that he was treated with a lack of respect.
4.NOT TO SURE on the info of this one but during a match between Krammnik and Shirov to decide the challenger for Kasparov even tho Shirov won Kasparov did not want to play Shirov and deccided the match would be between him and Krammnik.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=851 I didnt see this before and after reading it I do agree with Kasparov and I think Ian and the other guy are disgracies as there reason for choosing the game was only because Kasparov was on the losing side.
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Reb wrote:
Deranged wrote:
Kasparov was the nicest and best sportsmanship of anyone. Name a single bad thing that he did because from what I heard he was humble and modest.
Is this a joke ?! Try his behavior at Linares 2003 when he lost (with white ) against Radjabov who was 15 at the time. Kasparov isnt a very good loser.... then there's the incident with Polgar where he took a move back.... clearly caught on video.
Perhaps he means karpov? :)
lmao, I think I remember seeing a youtube video of him interrupting the ceremony when Radjabov was being awarded his brilliancy prize; that was great :D
Nimzowitsch.
(How can I lost to such an idiot!)
Kasparov, Fischer, Tarrasch, etc. are also on my list (agree with everybody else).
Reb wrote:
I guess Fischer is included due to his ego ? I dont know of him ever being a jerk when he lost , does anyone ?
As for Reshevsky what he did in an important game to Arnold Denker is enough to brand him as an A class heel/jerk and there are other incidents as well....
i agree bobby shouldnt be on that list. btw what did reshevsky do??
Reb wrote:
I guess Fischer is included due to his ego ? I dont know of him ever being a jerk when he lost , does anyone ?
As for Reshevsky what he did in an important game to Arnold Denker is enough to brand him as an A class heel/jerk and there are other incidents as well....
This is a wonderful and insightful comment. Tal said of Fischer that, "Whatever one wishes to believe concerning [Fischer's] character, Bobby was always a gentleman over the chessboard." Fischer was correct in many of his early accusations against the fixing of matches in which he was involved, his anger, therefore, was justified. In 1972, - well, the position that Fischer was in was a rather difficult one, and he, much like Ali in the Foreman Match, had to tell himself and everyone else that he was going to win. Norman Mailer, in his recount of both the Fischer-Spassky Match and the Ali-Foreman Match, said very much the same thing. Therefore, to rank Fischer so high in a list comprised of "jerks" seems rather harsh - however, when Fischer's name is placed above Kasparov's, it feels as though the author of the original comment was simply kidding.
To call Fischer a "jerk" for his later behavior is wrong - I believe that Slate.com said it best on 1/17/08, remarking the Chess community's mourning of the loss of the 28 year old wunderkind and not the 64 year old anti-semite.
Jul 22, 2011
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And at the other end of the spectrum: he wasn't a world champion, and maybe there are some stories out there of bad behavior by him during events (I hope not), but Greg Kaidanov struck me as a super-nice down-to-earth guy during the 6 days I got to spend at a camp where he taught. Of course, that was a zero-pressure situation.
no one mention Vassily Ivanchuk, surely he could fit in there.
The problem is being limited to 10 . I think there are far more than 10 that could be in this category.