Converting Chess.com to USCF

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camberfoil

Hello all. I am considering entering more tournaments in the ner-future. However, since I have only competed in one tournament, a long time ago, my rating is 754. Now, I'm not an amazing chess player, but I'm not that low. I have played an NM who estimated my rating at ~1200-1250. Does anyone propose a formula that could convert chess.com's rating system into USCF? Responses would be highly appreciated. If no formula is available, can people post their chess.com ratings and USCF ratings? 

Thanks a ton in advance.

A_G_A

This page may help you find your estimated rating: http://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-rating-comparisons

camberfoil

I already consulted it, and am searching for other opinions. If I can get enough data, I may be able to rough out a conversion formula.

camberfoil

Edit: I have found a thread with sufficient information for me to formulate a semi-accurate formula. I will post it once I have the time to perform some number-crunching.

EscherehcsE

I'm just wondering why you need to guesstimate your current USCF strength. Can't you just play in a number of tournaments and see where your rating settles at?

toiyabe
EscherehcsE wrote:

I'm just wondering why you need to guesstimate your current USCF strength. Can't you just play in a number of tournaments and see where your rating settles at?

This.  What does it matter what your rating is it at...whether its current/provisional/old/etc ??  You'll naturally get to your rating by playing games.  When my rating was first started(its still provisional now unfortunately, I blame college) I was at 1100 and beat a 1700 USCF, won some cash at a local tournament for biggest upset!  There are upsides to unintentionally sandbagging Cool

camberfoil

My USCF rating is 754 (I'm way underrated). I would need to play in a large quantity of tournaments in order to stabilize my rating. I would like to be able to see what rating I have approximately from my chess.com ratings so that I don't have to wait months and months. I will, eventually, stabilize my rating, but for now, an estimate is sufficient.

Pulpofeira

It will take so long? You need to play about 13 games to get a FEDA rating (Spanish national rating), if I'm not wrong. But, anyway, I think the FIDE rating is more interesting.

Nazgulsauron

To me it seems like online chess is overrated, live chess is underrated compared to normal ratings. In my case I'm 17xx OTB, 2000 Online, 1700ish Standard and 1300-1500 bullet/blitz. Tactics/Chess Mentor are even more overrated, although it seems there was some TT deflation since they added a billion new problems.

Judging by your ratings I'd say 1100ish OTB? It will stabilize fairly quickly though, so just find out.

camberfoil
JWestlake wrote:

To me it seems like online chess is overrated, live chess is underrated compared to normal ratings. In my case I'm 17xx OTB, 2000 Online, 1700ish Standard and 1300-1500 bullet/blitz. Tactics/Chess Mentor are even more overrated, although it seems there was some TT deflation since they added a billion new problems.

Judging by your ratings I'd say 1100ish OTB? It will stabilize fairly quickly though, so just find out.

Thank you, that helps.

DrCheckevertim
A_G_A wrote:

This page may help you find your estimated rating: http://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-rating-comparisons

This isn't very good. There have been better studies posted on the forums.

InDetention

The average of live chess standard and online chess ratings -100* = USCF rating.The average of live chess standard and online chess ratings -200 = CFC rating.The average of live chess standard and online chess ratings -300 = FIDE rating.

Based on 52 people. 

*about 100,200,and 300

InDetention

You would be about 1005 USCF. 

DrCheckevertim

No. First of all, online and live are different by 300 something points.

camberfoil
InDetention wrote:

You would be about 1005 USCF. 

That low? In my venture to find my rating, I asked several USCF Candidate Masters that I know from chess camp to give me an estimate, and they said about 1250...

DrCheckevertim

1200's probably about right

Blitz and standard are underrated anywhere from 100-300 (or more)

EscherehcsE
camberfoil wrote:
InDetention wrote:

You would be about 1005 USCF. 

That low? In my venture to find my rating, I asked several USCF Candidate Masters that I know from chess camp to give me an estimate, and they said about 1250...

We can debate whether it's 1000, 1100, or 1200, but the proof is in the pudding. Just play one or two dozen tournament games, and you'll have your answer. Smile

camberfoil

Well, I enjoy pudding, so I will continue to search for clues in the aforementioned amorphous solid ;)

camberfoil
CorfitzUlfeldt wrote:
camberfoil wrote:

My USCF rating is 754 (I'm way underrated). I would need to play in a large quantity of tournaments in order to stabilize my rating. I would like to be able to see what rating I have approximately from my chess.com ratings so that I don't have to wait months and months. I will, eventually, stabilize my rating, but for now, an estimate is sufficient.

Or...

You've got an estimate and an idea that you are underrated. Most people I've met think they are underrated.

But somehow you don't really perform to the rating you think you should have, because of "bad luck" or "that one blunder in an otherwise perfect game" or because your opponents were "all booked up on opening theory".

And then you start to make excuses as to why you can't play in this or that tournament, because you don't really want to challenge that self-image of being a much stronger player.

And then you end up playing online only, and start to imagine that your online rating would actually be much higher, if it wasn't because of all those uncaught computer-cheaters.

This forum is filled with people who think like that.

Thanks for the input. You appear to be the world's leading expert on such a matter. Your help is (not) appreciated.

steve_bute

My rules of thumb:

(1) Take chess.com online (correspondence) rating, subtract 800-900 points, and you have USCF standard (non-rapid) rating.

(2) Take chess.com blitz (5-minute) rating, add 100-200 points, and you have USCF standard (non-rapid) rating.

These should be applied in averages, not to individual players.