how many hours a week do i study to become a gm in 5 yrs from 1200 rating

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AnkitTheRockstar

i am 1200 fide rated player help to me to become a gm in 5 yrs suggest me ways of studing

notmtwain

I thought you wanted to be a rock star. Are you giving up on that dream already?

Chess GM is not any easier.

thegreat_patzer

I've always been VERY confused by these kinds of threads.

First- How MANY gm's Are there on chess.com?  I don't remember seeing hardly one.

Second- How would/could you POSSIBLY figure that the answer is like the SAME for everyone.  I'm sure Gm is totally BEYOND quite a few chess player.  Espacially if your NOT young.

Lastly- Isn't enough to Know that Gm is Very, VERY, and VERY hard to achieve.  I mean if you tell me * I can put foward 40 hours per week and NOT a moment more, than I'd say.  YES you better work THAT hard if you want to be a superstar amoung chess players.

IOW.  why does it even matter how many hours it takes!?  it clearly takes ALOT.  it did very magnus Carlsen and it does for every other (of the few) people that have ever achieved gm.

thegreat_patzer

this is just some of the reasons why I think this question has NO answer.

nevertheless I wish the OP lots of luck in his quest.

RookSacrifice_OLD

3000 hours per week

dpnorman

There's no answer to this question because it doesn't happen. If you're an adult and you're only rated 1200, you have don't have any chance to become a GM. I don't mean to offend you at all- it's a harsh reality which hits me as well (I am 17 with an 1800 rating trying to become a master- I wish I had started younger...I may never get there). I think a reasonable goal would be to reach 2000 in your life for OTB ratings. That goal is probably achievable for anyone under the age of 20 or so regardless of what their rating is coming in. 

I wish you the best of luck...it's just a reality of life that you have to start young to be great at anything, and chess is included (and by starting young I mean being a strong player at a young age, not just playing). 

thegreat_patzer

there are 168hours in a week.  but... probably Rook you are right.  absorb several lifetimes of hours per week, each week and in five years

irregardless of age, senelity, depth perspective and/or hard-eye coordination and you WILL be a grandmaster.

figofan

You need to play a lot, study tactics, openings and end games...practice, analize your games but above all have fun...otherwise what is the point? Do you really want to be the most miserable GM in the field? Balance your "normal" life and play seriously when you do it. Chess.com is a very good site too start but keep playing offline games to meet people face to face and and have a better knowledge of what it takes to be a pro at chess. Just my two cents for what it is worth...

dpnorman

@AdamovYuri but it's well known that it is much easier to go from 1200 to 2100 than from 2100 to GM. In fact, it's probably easier to go from 1200 to 2100 than from 2300 to GM. 

thegreat_patzer

"arena Grand master"

ahem.  thats not the same as an OTB gm.  your young and clearly Doing great! but becoming an OTB grandmaster is a much bigger task than the AGM.

also 5 hours per week?!

thats...wow.  I'm putting a LOT more than 5hours per week and not improving very fast at all! 

5 hours per week is AWFUL.  perhaps 5 hours per day! (perhaps) sounds close to right.  40 hours of Genuine No screwing around and Wasting all my time on the chess forum per week.

less than 15 hours a week isn't even trying IMHO.

SilentKnighte5

169 hours per week @ 10 years = 87,880 hours.

Chess.com won't exist by then, but make sure to keep us updated.

Knez1013
If someone has talent, knowleadge, patiente... it is possible in 5 years, but... there are other things to do in life!? Chess is not just a job, it is also ART. Good luck everybody!
Martin_Stahl

Arena GM is not a GM.

 

For the OP, get a good coach to start, spend around 40 hours a week on chess, add in some OTB rated tourneys and you might get to master level in 5 years (FIDE CM). If you are especially talented, you may get stronger.

 

Of course, 5 years later you could find yourself stuck at 1800 too.

Martin_Stahl
SilentKnighte5 wrote:

169 hours per week @ 10 years = 8,788 hours.

Chess.com won't exist by then, but make sure to keep us updated.

 

40 hours a week, 52 weeks in a year is 2,080 hours. 5 years puts someone over 10,000 hours.

 

SilentKnighte5

Forgot a zero.

thegreat_patzer

yes, unfortunately SK you missed a multiplication.

169 hours per week per 52 weeks per 10 years = 87,880hours

no time for sleep.  but we're going to TOTALLY toast the 10,000hour rule.

I suppose in the end Martin. 10,000hrs is as good as any other answer to the question.  But put it in the records, there isn't Really an answer.  you could take a patzer like me and 10,000hours won't do it!  I'm too old and slow.

xman720

Honestly, Martin is right. If you can become a GM, it is reasonable to expect to get it after around 10,000 hours of practice. 40 hours a week is what you would have to commit to.

Martin_Stahl
AdamovYuri wrote:

Arena Grand Master is official grandmaster title for busy people who dont have time to get the old grandmaster title

 

Official for FIDE Arena but not an official GM. Not as hard to get and not as prestigious. 

thegreat_patzer

perhaps its for people that don't have the time/resources to pursue OTB chess.

I'll be truthful Adam, I was thinking about trying arena.  but one shouldn't expect to promote arena on the chess.com forums, should they?  Arena and chess.com are competitors.

and you definitely shouldn't confuse the AGM and GM titles. there's a huge difference. 

blitzcopter
dpnorman wrote:

There's no answer to this question because it doesn't happen. If you're an adult and you're only rated 1200, you have don't have any chance to become a GM. I don't mean to offend you at all- it's a harsh reality which hits me as well (I am 17 with an 1800 rating trying to become a master- I wish I had started younger...I may never get there). I think a reasonable goal would be to reach 2000 in your life for OTB ratings. That goal is probably achievable for anyone under the age of 20 or so regardless of what their rating is coming in. 

As an empirical point, I see many examples of middle-ish aged adults that were somewhere in Class A not *that* long before turning master (5ish years), so even at that age it's certainly not impossible, which kind of surprised me. I guess people show their sudden (meaning, over a year or something) improvements whenever, although of course this becomes much less likely as one ages. At 17, it seems pretty certain that you are able to. Of course I have no idea how likely that is since I don't know you, just that I would never rule it out based just on non-chess factors.

Of course, the difference between Class A and master is probably much easier to explain and more technical in a simpler way than the difference between master and GM. Undoubtedly 1800 to 2200 is a pretty miniscule difference compared to 2200 vs mid-2300s.

Those are much more interesting things to think about than wondering about a hypothetical 20000000 hours of study and (equivalent) talent that no one in their right mind would ever use/achieve.