A Question on Odds Chess

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zisal2029

I have a question: there are three different possible odds used in Auto-Balance for a player 500 to 550 points higher in rating. Look at the list below for the possible odds if you choose Auto-Balance:

  • Knightmare (White begins the game with only knights on the back rank)
  • Queen vs Bishop and Knight (Only a queen, bishop, and knight appear on the board in their starting positions)
  • Missing Queen's Rook (The rook on a1 is eliminated. Prevents queenside castling)

How are the odds determined when the rating gap is between 500 and 550 points?

Ankitpan

Lol

zisal2029
Ankitpan wrote:

Lol

Do you have an answer to my question?

Circumlocutions
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zisal2029
Circumlocutions wrote:
Lol

Please avoid posting "Lol". Messages should answer my question.

tygxc

There are some opinions on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicap_(chess) 

CastawayWill

Paul Morphy has done these.

zisal2029
tygxc wrote:

There are some opinions on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicap_(chess) 

There’s nothing related to my question.

tygxc

#8
"[T]he Elo equivalent of a given handicap degrades as you go down the scale. A knight seems to be worth around a thousand points when the "weak" player is around IM level, but it drops as you go down. For example, I'm about 2400 and I've played tons of knight odds games with students, and I would put the break-even point (for untimed but reasonably quick games) with me at around 1800, so maybe a 600 value at this level. An 1800 can probably give knight odds to a 1400, a 1400 to an 1100, an 1100 to a 900, etc. This is pretty obviously the way it must work, because the weaker the players are, the more likely the weaker one is to blunder a piece or more. When you get down to the level of the average 8 year old player, knight odds is just a slight edge, maybe 50 points or so.
Kaufman has written that Kasparov could give pawn and move odds to a weak grandmaster (2500 FIDE rating) and be slightly favored, and would have even chances at knight odds against a player with a FIDE rating of 2115.[64]"

zisal2029
tygxc wrote:

#8
"[T]he Elo equivalent of a given handicap degrades as you go down the scale. A knight seems to be worth around a thousand points when the "weak" player is around IM level, but it drops as you go down. For example, I'm about 2400 and I've played tons of knight odds games with students, and I would put the break-even point (for untimed but reasonably quick games) with me at around 1800, so maybe a 600 value at this level. An 1800 can probably give knight odds to a 1400, a 1400 to an 1100, an 1100 to a 900, etc. This is pretty obviously the way it must work, because the weaker the players are, the more likely the weaker one is to blunder a piece or more. When you get down to the level of the average 8 year old player, knight odds is just a slight edge, maybe 50 points or so.
Kaufman has written that Kasparov could give pawn and move odds to a weak grandmaster (2500 FIDE rating) and be slightly favored, and would have even chances at knight odds against a player with a FIDE rating of 2115.[64]"

Okay, seems to be clear.

zisal2029

I also suggest these additional odds should be added:

Queen for knight: The odds-giver (the stronger player) starts the game without the queen, and the odds-receiver (the weaker player) starts the game without one of the knights.

Queen for rook: The odds-giver starts the game without the queen, and the odds-receiver starts the game without one of the rooks.

Two rooks: The odds-giver starts the game without the rooks.

If we can bring fairy pieces into Live Chess (unlikely but possible), we can also add these odds:

Giving king the knight’s move: The weaker player’s king can move how he does regularly and like the knight. In this case, the king’s icon should be replaced by an icon of a general (also called a centaur), a combined king and knight, which should be worth 5 points.

Giving queen the knight’s move: The weaker player’s queen can also move like a knight. In this case, the icon of the queen should be replaced by an icon of an amazon (worth 12 points) as the amazon is a combined queen and knight.

cyrilmartin28

Lol

zisal2029
cyrilmartin28 wrote:

Lol

Remember, no posting “lol”. Messages should be based on the topic.

zaneapsite

Lol

zisal2029
zaneapsite wrote:

Lol

This is the third time I’ve had to tell, no “Lol” messages.

zisal2029
capa_fan wrote:

Lol

This is the 4th time I will warn people not to post “Lol”. You must have something more based on the topic.

zisal2029
capa_fan wrote:

Lol

You’ve heard me out. Now please don’t force me to say that thing again.

tacticspotter

Lol

zisal2029
tacticspotter wrote:

Lol

Please don't force me to keep saying what you should not say.

tacticspotter
zisal2029 写道:
tacticspotter wrote:

Lol

Please don't force me to keep saying what you should not say.

"Well, you can’t stop me. That’s unfair."

Hey now you feel how I feel,congrats,was it annoying?

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