Bullet chess lag biased toward Americans?

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Martin_Stahl
icy wrote:

Some games... which games?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/111940a/comment/j8dnm9c/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&c3

also mentioned somewhat here: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/chess-com-relies-on-google-cloud-as-users-and-traffic-surges

Discusses some of the things that were being worked on earlier in the year with the heavier loads and as far as I know there's a lot still in progress. The Live chess scalability was what I am referring to.

Lent_Barsen
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Lent_Barsen wrote:

I definitely could be wrong, but I don't think the player with higher lag gets penalized.
I don't know, I'm just speculating, but I imagine the clocks for each player are managed locally. A player in their own client would get the transmission of the opponent's move along with a time remaining value from the opponent's clock. Then the player's own local clock would start counting down and when the player makes a move that move along with the time value from the local clock would be transmitted back to the opponent. That way lag actually does not come off either player's clock.

Lag is measure between the client and the server. So a player is never penalized for the lag of their opponent. However, both clocks will be updated to reflect the server official times, with the lag compensation accounted for, after when receiving moves.

https://support.chess.com/article/423-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken

Thanks for the info.

Praval_sai
Not sure
pawelszchy_2012

I fink yes

pawelszchy_2012

Maybe

ShikshaWithPraveen

I struggle with bullet on an on-going basis, playing with the world's worst internet connection, and it's bad enough that I have to play from India where I lose more than 0.6 seconds per pre-move at times. Half of my bullet loses are due to this nonsense.

Gump_forest

Thats why its rare to see anybody above 2000+ in bullet from India on chess.com ..i also notice most 2000+ bullet players are from US ..wheras if you go to lichess its literally all indians,iranians and turks above 2000

Gump_forest

and to anybody whose 2000+ on chess.com bullet and not from the US , you a true warrior lol ...

lets get to war and take down the Americans..raaaawr

Gump_forest

and btw im 2500+ bullet on lichess and barely 2300 on chess.com -_- ...i always loose the time scrambles here ... if i dont checkmate super early then i loose most of the games... F

KeSetoKaiba
Gump_forest wrote:

and btw im 2500+ bullet on lichess and barely 2300 on chess.com -_- ...i always loose the time scrambles here ... if i dont checkmate super early then i loose most of the games... F

I doubt that is because of lag though; 2500 to 2300 is pretty close and we all know that other site is inflated a few hundred points to chess.com anyway.

Besides, read Martin's post currently #16.

Gump_forest
KeSetoKaiba wrote:
Gump_forest wrote:

and btw im 2500+ bullet on lichess and barely 2300 on chess.com -_- ...i always loose the time scrambles here ... if i dont checkmate super early then i loose most of the games... F

I doubt that is because of lag though; 2500 to 2300 is pretty close and we all know that other site is inflated a few hundred points to chess.com anyway.

Besides, read Martin's post currently #16.

i dont see any significant playing strength difference from lichess to chess.com after 2100+ ...they literally same...my blitz and rapid is same on lichess,its 2300 and 2200 respectively..

and extending my argument i loose most of the winning positions over here in time scrambles ..

on lichess i save most of the hopeless positions in time scrambles

Martin_Stahl

My understanding is that Lichess doesn't count lag against either player, so lag won't cause time drops there. Here there's a maximum amount allowed and some will get counted against the clock in many cases. And I don't think premoves take any time there

Metuka2004

I use the perfect solution. One be American. Two don't play bullet or blitz. 🤪

Martin_Stahl
JTZ01 wrote:

oncee my opponents clocked reached zero, he did a premove and he still had 0.1 left.... the premove made him GET 0.1 SECONDS in my case

The clock on the client is not the official clock. The server keeps the official clocks and your client updates to the correct value once the move is received.

Athernigy

It's 2025 and they seem to have multiple chess.com "play" servers, here in AUS the ping is reading ~220ms which used to say ~140ms, and you can't compare to your opponents ping anymore, so it LOOKS like they've made it worse !!!

icy
Athernigy wrote:

It's 2025 and they seem to have multiple chess.com "play" servers, here in AUS the ping is reading ~220ms which used to say ~140ms, and you can't compare to your opponents ping anymore, so it LOOKS like they've made it worse !!!

And the ping reading of 220ms is not inaccurate either, I have tested it. It is very annoying being abused and blocked by top bullet players due to my ping.