Well, Black usually plays better than that
Polish opening - Good or Bad
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Yeah. That was just a very very basic version. What do you think of the polish openingm if black plays well?
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varelse1 wrote:
Remember, there are no unsound openings.
Only unsound players!
hmm maybe a4 or h4 are unsound openings, no judgement on the players that learn those crazy openings...
I think that 1. f3 is unsound...
But that's completely fine compared to a4!!! f3 sort of gets ready for e4. All a4 does is gets ready for Ra3!!!!
Depends on your play style. It's playable below 1900 for sure.
b3 surely > b4
FancyPot wrote:
Here is an example of one of the ways the opening can be played, a game between Magnus Carlsen as white and Hikaru Nakamura as black. Opening is definitely playable and has been played by a lot of strong players including Bobby Fischer, Boris Spassky, Magnus Carlsen, Hikaru Nakamura and so on... It's not dubious by any means but is surely not played in classical at the high level as much. If you're thinking as an intermediate or even an advanced player to play this opening you sure can but you need to have good positional understanding and understand certain ideas.
Is a draw with white enough to prove an opening is good these days?
FancyPot wrote:
jamesstack wrote:
FancyPot wrote:
Here is an example of one of the ways the opening can be played, a game between Magnus Carlsen as white and Hikaru Nakamura as black. Opening is definitely playable and has been played by a lot of strong players including Bobby Fischer, Boris Spassky, Magnus Carlsen, Hikaru Nakamura and so on... It's not dubious by any means but is surely not played in classical at the high level as much. If you're thinking as an intermediate or even an advanced player to play this opening you sure can but you need to have good positional understanding and understand certain ideas.
Is a draw with white enough to prove an opening is good these days?
There are many high level games (high as in 2500+) where white wins but I showed this game not because of the result but the different positional idea giving up the dark squared bishop for a strong dark squared center and a white squared bishop on g2 rather than keeping the bishop pair. The idea was to show opening can be played at the highest level (not played much in classical but is played a bit in rapid and blitz) and that is has variety of ideas. The opening is actually good as long as you understand it's ideas and it's middlegame well in my opinion.
Okay fair enough. Looking at that game though, I felt black had already equalized by move 10.
Something you might need to be aware of if you play this, is that there are some openings where white plays b4 at some point. There is a line in the leningrad uutch where b4 is played early on and then there are the kings Indian positions where b4 plans are common, so black may be able to just transpose to one of those or at least something similar to it. A Grunfeld set up is also possible. I played a correspondence game on ICCF a while back that started as 1. d4 d5 2. b4 I did some research and found this game played between some GMs. Unfortunately I dont know which ones. What struck me about this game is that although with the pawns on b4 and d4 the c5 break seems difficult to achieve, black found a way to play it anyway. After seeing this game, I went for the Grunfeld set up in my own game which I won. Its probably not worth showing. My opponent didnt play well and I won in 19 moves.
I dont really see anything for white either. At the time I thought there might be a way for white to get an improved version of QGD. That might be the case if white could maintain the pawn on b4 but the problem is it is too easy for black to undermine the b4 square with a5.
Mar 5, 2022
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had a snes chessmaster game & 1.b4 was the only opening i managed to beat it with:
sokolsky is better than its reputation... maybe mid-tier first move somewhere in the 1.Nc3/f4 range?
hey, it rules out the sicilian & modern at least! 😆
There are many many strange opening, even checkmate in just 4 move. But When we replay, we can always find some leak. In this match, if 2.… Nc6, White's plan will come to naught.In fact, this only because we are so accustomed to usual opening that can't do correct move.
If I'm going to be honest objectively it's not great but it gives me good results and takes my opponents out of opening theory on move one.
my score is 1:7 against the Polish so i think its a legit opening
Mar 7, 2022
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It isn’t really good. This trap happened to me once, but I would recommend you don’t play this opening. Openings should start by controlling the center. e4, d4, c4, Nf3 (or Nc3 but it isn’t popular), g3, b3 (trying to get the bishop out to control the center), all this are examples of good openings.
The Polish opening is an unusual opening for most chess players. Many of us find that developing the b pawn so early on in the game is often unnecessary in terms of centre development. So, What do you think?