1. Your opponent ran out of time.
2. You had just a king (insufficient material)
Youre opponent had no time to win the game, and you had no material to win. The game ends in a draw.
1. Your opponent ran out of time.
2. You had just a king (insufficient material)
Youre opponent had no time to win the game, and you had no material to win. The game ends in a draw.
Stalemate is definitely a draw, but losing on time is a loss, why else would they call it losing on time?
Okay, I'll stop teasing now.
I think #2 is enough to put it as maybe the more logical competition rule of chess. As you mention in #4, you could still playing, but no way you can win. And don't you think clock is being a key component when a player with two queens and bishop vs. a lone king can't win the game?
but losing on time is a loss, why else would they call it losing on time?
With insuffficient material, they don't, they call it a draw.
No offense, but in professional matches it never comes to one side being up two queens and a bishop.
Hilariously, he was one move away from mate. In a 15 minute game. With INCREMENT!
In that case he deserved to have lost.
This is crap. Just happened to me today. In a 15|10 time control I had a theoretically drawn position due to my terrible chess play, but I had a clear 13 minutes (!) advantage with my opponent in time trouble, down to his last seconds. He times out, and then I see this silly game result before me. Zero rating points gained. Punishment? What gives? Not buying this at all.
You see it wrong. Before your opponent ran out of time, you had already lost all your pieces you needed in order to win. Once those pieces were gone, no matter what happened it was never possible for you to win, only to lose or draw.
If you ran out of time and your opponent has impossibility to checkmate then you will get the draw and not the loss.
The insufficient material rule is clearly stated in chess.com rules. Other organizations interpret things differently, but most say you can't be credited with a win if you don't have enough material left to ever checkmate your opponent. If you feel that strongly about this rule, look for another place to play and this time check out their rules first.
FIDE Laws of Chess:
"6.9
Except where one of Articles 5.1.1, 5.1.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.2, 5.2.3 applies, if a player does not complete the prescribed number of moves in the allotted time, the game is lost by thatplayer. However, the game is drawn if the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player’s king by any possible series of legal moves."
https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012018
FIDE Laws of Chess:
"6.9
Except where one of Articles 5.1.1, 5.1.2, 5.2.1, 5.2.2, 5.2.3 applies, if a player does not complete the prescribed number of moves in the allotted time, the game is lost by thatplayer. However, the game is drawn if the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player’s king by any possible series of legal moves."
https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012018
Now there you go bringing sense, reason, and rule clarity to the forums.
For anyone else who sees this post:
FIDE: It is a draw with insufficient materials if there is no mate on the board, period. Including help mates.
US Chess: It is a draw with insufficient materials if there is no forced mate.
Chess.com: It is a draw with insufficient materials if your pieces cannot for a mate on a bare king.
If white runs out of time.
FIDE: win for black
USChess: draw
Chess.com: draw
Black to move and runs out of time.
FIDE: win for white
USChess: win for white
Chess.com: Draw, because a single knight cannot mate a bare king.
I won a game tonight to an opponent who lost on time. He had two queens and a bishop while I just had the King, but he couldn't figure out how to checkmate me and lost on time.
But after he lost, chess.com said it was "Game drawn - timeout vs insufficient material."
How does that make sense?! Why is it a draw because I had insufficient material? The clock is a key component of the game and my opponent lost. I just don't get it.
Oh well...