Why is a live chess rating of 1200 high in percentile?

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GilbertJiangHB
A live chess rating of 1200 has a high percentile of 70% to 80%, Why? A daily rating of 1200 is not very high percentile, a daily 960 rating of 1200 is below 50% in percentile? Maybe smaller world record rating means higher average rating.
notmtwain
GilbertJiangHB wrote:
A live chess rating of 1200 has a high percentile of 70% to 80%, Why? A daily rating of 1200 is not very high percentile, a daily 960 rating of 1200 is below 50% in percentile? Maybe smaller world record rating means higher average rating.

What do you mean by a live chess rating? Bullet? Blitz? Rapid?

Your 1125 blitz rating is at 69.7%. The 50th percentile looks like about 800 on the leaderboard graph.

The 50th percentile in daily is somewhere between 1100 and 1200.

 

 

 

CreamOfIce
I think it’s because most chess.com players are in the 800-900 range, so if you are 1200 then you have a high percentile because most players are lower rated than you.
elwen200
notmtwain wrote:
GilbertJiangHB wrote:
A live chess rating of 1200 has a high percentile of 70% to 80%, Why? A daily rating of 1200 is not very high percentile, a daily 960 rating of 1200 is below 50% in percentile? Maybe smaller world record rating means higher average rating.

What do you mean by a live chess rating? Bullet? Blitz? Rapid?

Your 1125 blitz rating is at 69.7%. The 50th percentile looks like about 800 on the leaderboard graph.

The 50th percentile in daily is somewhere between 1100 and 1200.

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

elwen200
GilbertJiangHB wrote:
A live chess rating of 1200 has a high percentile of 70% to 80%, Why? A daily rating of 1200 is not very high percentile, a daily 960 rating of 1200 is below 50% in percentile? Maybe smaller world record rating means higher average rating.

What question are you talking about???

KeSetoKaiba
Art0fArcane wrote:
elwen200 wrote:
GilbertJiangHB wrote:
A live chess rating of 1200 has a high percentile of 70% to 80%, Why? A daily rating of 1200 is not very high percentile, a daily 960 rating of 1200 is below 50% in percentile? Maybe smaller world record rating means higher average rating.

What question are you talking about???

Percentile is how much better you are then other players, for example I’m near the 99th percentile for rapid, that means I’m better than around 98% of people in rapid on this site.

Hey, me too grin.png I'm near the 99 percentile as well - despite the fact that you are much higher rated than me lol.

By the way, in response to the forum thread op: that is because 1200 or so is better than half of the active players! If you want to know why, then perhaps researching "rating pools" would help. Basically, some fields of players (called "pools") are more competitive than others. chess.com is a weaker rating pool because it includes EVERYONE who wants to play chess and has a chess.com account. This is pretty easy to do. Hobbyists, children and people just messing around for fun all are included: many of these players are under 1200 rating. 

A tougher rating pool would be something like FIDE or USCF because everyone there is more serious about chess.

KeSetoKaiba
Art0fArcane wrote:

*That one 1100 rated Child CM from togo*

serious 

lol - okay sure there are outliers, but then again: they are also only one member of literally millions in the statistics, so they barely impact it at all grin.png

KeSetoKaiba
TortstenRune wrote:

How strong a player pool is does not affect the percentile of a certain rating. It is true that becomming 1200 is easier at chess.com than in Fide, but if the pool is distributed the same way a 1200 Fide player would have same percentile as a 1200 Chess.com player. he would be stronger, but so would his opponent, so it would be same percentile. It is however true that the percentile can be different for the same rating in certain ranges if the players internal relative strength are distributed differently. For instance if Chess.com was low on players of a certain playing strength compared to FIDE.  

Good comment in theory, but in practice I'm pretty sure the portion I bolded is correct; chess.com and FIDE range is not the same.

arzanish1

I am rapid 850 70 percentile and daily 930 70 percentile

Honchkrowabcd

Daily rating can be inaccurate because lots of people don't use chess.com that much and lose on time

KeSetoKaiba

Huh, cool I see a an old post of mine when I now have a video on this very topic:

Ziryab

The popularity of this site is such that the vast majority of players here (probably 75%) are substantially below average.

ardghal93
arzanish1 написал:

I am rapid 850 70 percentile and daily 930 70 percentile

Well, I am rapid 1220 and percentile 1,6% somehow