Puzzle points

Hello everyone

Do you know if something changed recently about the bonus and malus point when we try to solve puzzles ? I just started 5-6 weeks ago, I went to rating 2477 (ok, it's only puzzles, I know, not Elo by faaar) , then I made mistake so I was downgraded to 2200, and now, I don't have anymore the +10 or +15 if I solve quickly : it's only +5 each time, and -15 if I make a mistake. 

Any change, or just me getting dumber ? It's an option

If you look at your history, you're getting puzzles a lot lower rated than your rating, so you'll get fewer points for solving and lose more for failure.

Those are puzzles that have a pending rating state when being solved and missed. 

@martin_stahl : Yes indeed, I see that (I have problems around 1500, lower than my ranking)

I don't know if I can change that ? Or is it just the algorithm choosing for me according to my last results ? 

I'm not sure this algorithm is 100% accurate though  :  I solved the puzzles level 2200 2 weeks ago and now I'm making mistakes for 1500 puzzle, it's a bit strange. Or maybe I just lost my brain somewhere  

There seems to be a change since yesterday: If you fail a puzzle, the difficulty will be reduced dramatically and not just a bit like before. That very much limits the points you can gain and considerably increases the points you can lose. In a nutshell: A whole new level of frustration.

@penelopeTXL : yes absolutely ! very frustrating, I have now problems rated 1500, 5 pts gain and 15-17 points loose . And sometimes, "loosing" is just taking a different order that is as efficient so it's really frustrating 

In addition to that, the difficulty rises less than before, also limiting the points you can earn. After a reset, I would get from 400 to 1400+ in 100 puzzles (with 90%+ correct). Now I get to 1200+ only because I still have to deal with difficulty 100-200 even though I'm already at 500+ puzzle "ELO". Annoying.

All Settings > Puzzles > Reset Rated Training History

https://www.chess.com/settings/tactics

Oh cool, thanks!

There's nothing you can change.

Regarding lower rated puzzles and failing, I know there are tactical patterns that can exist at lower levels that are common at higher levels and if you're not really familiar with them and don't fully calculate the lines, it may be easier to get them wrong.

Changing the move order very likely has a defense that you're missing and results in losing the advantage or potential losing.

...and then there are the nasty ones where you're supposed to simplify the position by trading a piece before you make the move to gain a piece.

My impression is, something has changed since yesterday.   The target times seem noticeably lower than I have been used to seeing, in many of the puzzles. So that solving correctly, but taking longer than the target time, gains less points.   Just an observation, puzzle points don't bother me at all, I just like to see if I can get them right.   And I won't to try to speed up to match, either.

I have the same feeling that something changed recently. I went to 2477 last week and now I'm struggling around 2250 with my result being +5 +5 -18 +5 +5 +5 +5 -17, quite frustrating     I'm not saying that I'm the strongest puzzle solver, but still, I'm not more stupid than last week and the algorithm seems (?) very different 

I'm a bit higher up, peaked at 2950 or so, and mostly waver in the 2800's, but I saw the same thing:  a bunch of puzzles rated like 2100-2200 then a 2600 one.  So like the rest of you, it's a string of +5 then a -18 if I miss one.

I thought maybe it's just a matter of numbers - that maybe they don't have so many puzzles in the 2500-3000 range as 2000-2499.  And that assumes the algorithm is designed not to give you repeats.  But yeah, it's weird.

These people who have ratings of 65540, you look at their most recent 25 puzzles, and it's crazy.  3700, 3800... some where it's just "absolutely no way do I ever in my life get good enough to solve that", or "I would never see that THAT is better than Qxf7+ (or whatever)".  Lots of the puzzles above like 2300, if you see a hanging queen, you know that taking it won't be the solution, but those high rated ones have so many honey traps....

I noticed this too and I really don't like this change at all. On one hand it's pretty easy to get a long streak of puzzles without them getting too difficult too fast; around an hour ago I had a 13 streak, and gained around ~90-100 points? Then I get a few wrong and lose -18 per puzzle... it makes it terribly hard to gain points imo.

I also noticed that a lot of the target times for puzzles are really short as well (agreed with @ChuffNDuffy) . Could be a luck thing, but I'm hoping chesscom will change the whole system back to what it was someday ):

I noticed the change today too, as I had a bunch of puzzles rated at a lower level than usual.

I guess that it's a mesure to counter puzzle rating inflation and predict that my puzzle rating, and perhaps puzzle rating in general,  will fall in the next days... and I have no problem with that.

Actually I remember when I began chess I really had to struggle to improve my puzzle rating, nowadays beginners seem to reach high rating puzzle far more easily.

Maybe they're gifted or maybe I just suck...

On the other hand, few years ago, puzzles rated above 2200-2300 were really hard for me, it required a lot of efforts and several lines of calculation, now you can find  puzzles rated above 2500  whose solution is just two or three forced moves.

(ok, maybe I'm exaggerating a little,  but not so much... I don't think I had made so much progress)

What's your take on this "feeling" ?