Sam Loyd Mate in Three

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JG27Pyth

At a used bookstore today, I bought a February, 1933 "The Chess Review" magazine. It has a White Mates In Three Moves on the cover by renowned puzzle composer Sam Loyd . I nailed the puzzle in record time (I normally struggle a bit with puzzles -- they aren't my forte). Of course the magazine provides the solution in the next issue -- so I don't know if I've gotten it right. I'm pretty sure I have. Here's the puzzle with "my" solution (I could check my answer with a chess engine but what's the fun in that?) 

JG27Pyth

bumpity bumpity bump -- somebody do my Sam Loyd mate in three, jeez!

jacklemmon77

nice

-waller-

Yep, I had to look. Stunning solution, like so many of Loyd's. I remember there is one puzzle where Black queens with check,whilst white just marches his king into the centre of a crazy board and mates with one of something like five different discoveries.

sjonker

QtoH2 also works

JG27Pyth
sjonker wrote:

QtoH2 also works


No, Loyd's far too good a puzzle maker to let a move that natural be the solution, and it isn't the solution:

1.Qh2 Ra2 and there's no mate in three...

BigDaddy1515

who would leave their queen? lame puzzle

sjonker
JG27Pyth wrote:
sjonker wrote:

QtoH2 also works


No, Loyd's far too good a puzzle maker to let a move that natural be the solution, and it isn't the solution:

1.Qh2 Ra2 and there's no mate in three...


 Qh1 followed by Kg3

JG27Pyth
BigDaddy1515 wrote:

who would leave their queen? lame puzzle


BigD, you do understand that checkmating the opponent is better than having a queen, right?

(Ok, I don't actually care about the answer Wink ... )

-waller-

Here's the puzzle I was talking about. Composed by Loyd, white to move and mate in three.

JG27Pyth
-waller- wrote:

Here's the puzzle I was talking about. Composed by Loyd, white to move and mate in three.

 

 


Ok, that's psycho/amazing.

bobobobob101

ownedWhite Mates In Three Moves

JG27Pyth
sjonker wrote:
JG27Pyth wrote:
sjonker wrote:

QtoH2 also works


No, Loyd's far too good a puzzle maker to let a move that natural be the solution, and it isn't the solution:

1.Qh2 Ra2 and there's no mate in three...


 Qh1 followed by Kg3


No that surely does not work for mate in three. 

1.Qh2 Ra2

2.Qh1 Rh2+

3.Qxh2 ... is a straightforward refutation, but more annoying and more delaying is:

1.Qh2 Ra2

2.Qh1 Rg2! ... and I'm not sure White can Mate in Three starting from here!

sjonker
sjonker wrote:
Any rook
sjonker wrote:
JG27Pyth wrote:
sjonker wrote:

QtoH2 also works


No, Loyd's far too good a puzzle maker to let a move that natural be the solution, and it isn't the solution:

1.Qh2 Ra2 and there's no mate in three...


 Qh1 followed by Kg3


No that surely does not work for mate in three. 

1.Qh2 Ra2

2.Qh1 Rh2+

3.Qxh2 ... is a straightforward refutation, but more annoying and more delaying is:

1.Qh2 Ra2

2.Qh1 Rg2! ... and I'm not sure White can Mate in Three starting from here!

Any rook move is merely delaying the inevitable.   And you are right a queen checkmate takes more moves.    MO was only that the queen will getthe checkmate


JG27Pyth
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mississauga99
-waller- wrote:

Here's the puzzle I was talking about. Composed by Loyd, white to move and mate in three.

 

 


1 Ke2, f1=Q+

2 Ke3, and white loses after Bf4+

3 Rxf4, Rh3+ and white is doomed.

Isn't the winning line for white:

1 Bd3+, Kd4

2 Rf3+, Be5

3 Bxe5#

michael93

white could have won in another way

JG27Pyth
michael93 wrote:

white could have won in another way


So what's your solution. I don't think there's another.

asampedas
-waller- wrote:

Here's the puzzle I was talking about. Composed by Loyd, white to move and mate in three.

 

 


That left me dizzy like a 'waller'. How did Loyd come up with that?! He must be a genius!