Learning Lucid Dreaming

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Murrrrr

Those who don't know the concept of lucid dreams, can read if from wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

The idea of lucid dreaming is quite interesting. For one to be able to control their dreams and do what ever they want without fear. Want to play a game with Kasparov? Or maybe study a game with some other GM? Lucid dreams should be the way.

But what's the point? Sure it's entertaining to control your dreams, but that's it, just pointless entertainment..... wrong! Studies show that there are many different benefits for those who have the patient to try lucid dreaming. With lucid dreaming you can:

  • Improve your problem solving skills
  • Improve your creativity
  • Improve your confidence
  • Practice new skills

These are only some of the benefits that surround lucid dreaming.

 

So now that you know something about lucid dreaming, I would like to challenge anyone to train with me. You can learn to have lucid dreams by will and that's what I'm aiming for. I'm interested in the possibility of putting together chess and lucid dreaming to learn about chess as a game and about myself as a player.

Whether or not people will join me on my quest, I'll post my progress in here.

Post here if you're interested and I'll try to put out some techniques I'm trying out.

PS. Lucid dreaming is absolutely safe for people who can tell the difference between dreamworld and real world. If someone has mental illnesses, they should not in any case try lucid dreaming without doctors permission.

thesexyknight

From what I understand, you're supposed to keep a journal right before bed. That's been shown to cause lucid dreaming, or atleast that's what I learned in Psych class, and as we all know that's mostly bs Wink

Edit: And by journal I mean dream journal. Write down what you dream immediately after waking for a few months. But most people have had lucid dreams in their life, this often happens when you realize you're dreaming as you sleep

Murrrrr
thesexyknight wrote:

From what I understand, you're supposed to keep a journal right before bed. That's been shown to cause lucid dreaming, or atleast that's what I learned in Psych class, and as we all know that's mostly bs

Edit: And by journal I mean dream journal. Write down what you dream immediately after waking for a few months. But most people have had lucid dreams in their life, this often happens when you realize you're dreaming as you sleep


You're a correct on that one.

The point on having a dream journal is to improve your dream recall. That is vital for lucid dreaming. How can you know if you've had a lucid dream if you don't remember your dreams. We've all had lucid dreams in the past, but most of us don't remember them.

After you remember at least one dream every night, there are techniques for inducing a lucid dream. Some will work and some won't. It's all about what works for you.

 

Now some updates:

I don't remember a thing from last night, which is odd because I usually remember at least half a dream. So today I'm going to add an alarm clock. I'll make it wake me up 2 h after I go to bed. Then an hour after that and hour and a half after that. That should wake me up during REM periods, which should result me remembering my dreams. I've tried this a couple of times before and it has worked for me. Hope if works this time.

thesexyknight
Murrrrr wrote:
thesexyknight wrote:

From what I understand, you're supposed to keep a journal right before bed. That's been shown to cause lucid dreaming, or atleast that's what I learned in Psych class, and as we all know that's mostly bs

Edit: And by journal I mean dream journal. Write down what you dream immediately after waking for a few months. But most people have had lucid dreams in their life, this often happens when you realize you're dreaming as you sleep


You're a correct on that one.

The point on having a dream journal is to improve your dream recall. That is vital for lucid dreaming. How can you know if you've had a lucid dream if you don't remember your dreams. We've all had lucid dreams in the past, but most of us don't remember them.

After you remember at least one dream every night, there are techniques for inducing a lucid dream. Some will work and some won't. It's all about what works for you.

 

Now some updates:

I don't remember a thing from last night, which is odd because I usually remember at least half a dream. So today I'm going to add an alarm clock. I'll make it wake me up 2 h after I go to bed. Then an hour after that and hour and a half after that. That should wake me up during REM periods, which should result me remembering my dreams. I've tried this a couple of times before and it has worked for me. Hope if works this time.


Not worth it Cool. I like my sleep too much. And I do have recall of a few lucid dreams, right before waking up. They're similar to daydreaming. But what's great about a daydream is when you realize you're daydreaming and you choose to stay in that daydream. That's actually a mild form of a seizure Laughing.

(Note: Seizure are typically defined as an influx of electicity crossing the corpus callosum)

HyperLucid

LDing and beyond since 82.. reality checks randomly through out the day, dream journal by the bed side, reading material before bed via book or on-line articles and forums are what I keep up with. As for W.B.T.B (wake back to bed) I never found that to be worth the trouble though it can get results..I get action so no need to jack a day up doing it..

A great read Im just finishing up and highly recommend is Robert Waggoners *Lucid Dreaming, Gateway to the inner self*

His website has really good stuff and and nice free e-zine. http://www.dreaminglucid.com/

other worth while sites are

http://www.dreamviews.com/

http://ld4all.com/

http://dreamstudies.org/

http://mortalmist.com/

Murrrrr
tonydal wrote:

Sorry, I don't really buy this...because I did in fact teach myself to do that, and found that I was very tired when I woke up.  It was as though the lucid sleep didn't count as real sleep (which I suppose makes some sort of sense).

It is definitely an eerie feeling though, no denying that.  The real difficulty (once you've figured out how to do it) is maintaining that conscious knowledge for any great length of time during the dream (I constantly found myself slipping back).


That's odd. According to Stephen LaBerge, the founder of the Lucidity Institute and the main researcher of lucid dreaming, you should get the same amount of sleep. It's just a dream and your brain isn't working like it would when you are awake. That's why in dream world things change all the time.

HyperLucid
Murrrrr wrote:
tonydal wrote:

Sorry, I don't really buy this...because I did in fact teach myself to do that, and found that I was very tired when I woke up.  It was as though the lucid sleep didn't count as real sleep (which I suppose makes some sort of sense).

It is definitely an eerie feeling though, no denying that.  The real difficulty (once you've figured out how to do it) is maintaining that conscious knowledge for any great length of time during the dream (I constantly found myself slipping back).


That's odd. According to Stephen LaBerge, the founder of the Lucidity Institute and the main researcher of lucid dreaming, you should get the same amount of sleep. It's just a dream and your brain isn't working like it would when you are awake. That's why in dream world things change all the time.


 Your dreaming regardless as to whether your aware of it or not. Being aware (Lucid) does nothing in a way of causing fatigue itself. However, if your springing out of bed to write down your Lucid in a dream journal at 3a.m then can't get back to sleep for an hour, or setting your alarm for a WBTB disrupting sleep again then you may not feel as rested during the waking hours.

That said, once you get the hang of LDing and your methods of trying to induce them you'll find sleep and rest no problem..

Wink

Murrrrr
Knatted wrote:
Murrrrr wrote:
tonydal wrote:

Sorry, I don't really buy this...because I did in fact teach myself to do that, and found that I was very tired when I woke up.  It was as though the lucid sleep didn't count as real sleep (which I suppose makes some sort of sense).

It is definitely an eerie feeling though, no denying that.  The real difficulty (once you've figured out how to do it) is maintaining that conscious knowledge for any great length of time during the dream (I constantly found myself slipping back).


That's odd. According to Stephen LaBerge, the founder of the Lucidity Institute and the main researcher of lucid dreaming, you should get the same amount of sleep. It's just a dream and your brain isn't working like it would when you are awake. That's why in dream world things change all the time.


 Your dreaming regardless as to whether your aware of it or not. Being aware (Lucid) does nothing in a way of causing fatigue itself. However, if your springing out of bed to write down your Lucid in a dream journal at 3a.m then can't get back to sleep for an hour, or setting your alarm for a WBTB disrupting sleep again then you may not feel as rested during the waking hours.

That said, once you get the hang of LDing and your methods of trying to induce them you'll find sleep and rest no problem..

 


No pain no gain Laughing

Aris_Tomaras

I've read some things about lucid dreams but never tried it. The reason is because i can't find a benefit. Nevertheless i wonder if there is some benefits about things that have to do only with mind, like for example solving a chess problem.

I wonder if during a lucid dream the brain works faster than when awaken, because if this happens then it has real benefits. Does anybody know something about it? Has anybody done this or heard about an experience like this by somebody else?

Murrrrr
saavedra29 wrote:

I've read some things about lucid dreams but never tried it. The reason is because i can't find a benefit. Nevertheless i wonder if there is some benefits about things that have to do only with mind, like for example solving a chess problem.

I wonder if during a lucid dream the brain works faster than when awaken, because if this happens then it has real benefits. Does anybody know something about it? Has anybody done this or heard about an experience like this by somebody else?


The experiences you have in a lucid dream, carry over to the real world. Some even use it to make their sport performance better. Of course you can't become a black belt in karate by dreaming, but it has been said to have a positive effect.

I can give you one example about solving problems. Just couple of days ago I was wrestling with my programming assignment. I was stuck with a single problem for the whole day. I went to bed and when I woke up (from non-lucid dream), the solution just popped in my head. If you can solve problems during normal sleep, think about how much more efficent it will be when you actually intend to solve it.

galaxygirl
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marqumax

How is it going 10 years later? 😂

redghost101
Lucid dreaming? How about fallen kingdoming?
BryanCFB
Murrrrr wrote:
saavedra29 wrote:

I've read some things about lucid dreams but never tried it. The reason is because i can't find a benefit. Nevertheless i wonder if there is some benefits about things that have to do only with mind, like for example solving a chess problem.

I wonder if during a lucid dream the brain works faster than when awaken, because if this happens then it has real benefits. Does anybody know something about it? Has anybody done this or heard about an experience like this by somebody else?


The experiences you have in a lucid dream, carry over to the real world. Some even use it to make their sport performance better. Of course you can't become a black belt in karate by dreaming, but it has been said to have a positive effect.

I can give you one example about solving problems. Just couple of days ago I was wrestling with my programming assignment. I was stuck with a single problem for the whole day. I went to bed and when I woke up (from non-lucid dream), the solution just popped in my head. If you can solve problems during normal sleep, think about how much more efficent it will be when you actually intend to solve it.

On a few occasions I've actually fallen asleep struggling to solve a tough Chess.com Daily Puzzle, and upon awakening from my nap have suddenly been able to solve the puzzle!

Problem5826

It's an amazing experience, but it also takes a lot of dedication (at least it did for me - I know some people can apparently do it easier).

You basically have to write down everything happening in your dreams, but it's only then that you realize how many times you dream during a night and partially wake up.

I'd rather have a hassle free night's sleep tbh. Sleep for practicality and functionality instead. Certainly worth doing it for the experience though.

APersonWhoYoyos
It’s easy to do it once, the problem is once you’ve done it, its then a long hard slog trying everything to get more consistent
APersonWhoYoyos
You have them often?
LordHunkyhair3

I can remember doing it just a few times, but Ive usually ended up waking very quickly from it

APersonWhoYoyos
Ah, so a natural lucid dreamer, nice! I have like the worst mind possible for natural lucid dreaming lol so I have to rely on techniques
TheLordWalkedWithUs
Last one I had, I was like “wow, I’m in a dream”. And nothing else happened so.