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ilikewindmills
Type 8) People who make ridiculously long posts for no reason. Usually not paid by anybody.
Babytigrrr
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Scarlettaco
Babytigrrr wrote:

I've seen type 1 regularly, in fact, I've got that I suspect everyone now.  Type 2... Seen this.  Type 3... maybe we're all capable of this at some point?  I try never to do 4... and it annoys me when seemingly 'intelligent' members do this.  5. Yep... currently witnessing this.  6.  Gosh, never knew this existed.  *watches back*.  7.  Those darned Russians get everywhere!!

 

 

#5.  You talking about me Baby?  Or did I just get hit by a narcissistic pebble.

Klemens82

Interesting typification, never thought much about it. After some point just found the rule "Never feed the trolls". And luckily nothing more was needed for me. But this list of 1-7 is helpful. 

Commander_Riker

Hello Player very interesting list.

I mostly agree with a couple exceptions. 

#5 Staff or Mods do not target any members to troll. We may track in silence but it is against chess.com rules for any member helping the site to take any actions like that. 

#6 Is not allowed by this site. We monitor and in general can not take part in the discussion.

Our biggest problem is #1 types and suspected members should be reported to support or pointed out to a Mod to look into. We have tools to track multiple accounts / sock puppets. 

Thanks for your time on this happy.png

Commander_Riker

Oh I understand now. Generally a troll targeting staff or a Mod dosn't last long happy.png LOL

Any member that is targeted by a group of trolls should use the blocking setting first if in a club maybe quit the club or if happening in the public forums just report to support@chess.com. This is something the site doesn't condone.

Commander_Riker

No player Club Admins and SA are different then chess.com Mods like I am. We help monitor the public areas of chess.com while admins take care of clubs.

RonaldJosephCote

  At any given time, there's a couple of hundred trolls on the site. they each have the're own "tell".

ArgoNavis

This thread is in desperate need of two things:

-Examples of each kind of troll, i.e. you have to put that bored narcissist called ArgoNavis in one of those cathegories.

-A bump

Smositional
playerafar wrote:


Type 3 Trolls.  Individual isolated trolls.  Infinite in variety.
But like Type 2 - easily blocked.  Its not so easy to block type 1 accounts.

Type 6)  A person who is being paid by the same website - to enter conversations.
Whether chatrooms or forums. To troll whoever - in whatever way.
The website could use its own staff - disguised accounts - or outside people.
Sometimes - this is in a good purpose though.  A kind of "immune system".

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Interesting post. Good job!

Type 3: Is that a typo? Both type 2/3 can be easily blocked.

Type 6: Are you sure? Sometimes staff members participate in a thread in I think 2 reasons.

They are interested in the topic and they basically modereate it. Sometimes in very controversial threads that person tells the people to stay with in the TOS.

I think trolling is the wrong word.

Smositional

That's a good idea and a very scientific approach. First define categories and criteria then evaluate what is trolling or not. For clubs it is even more important to know what counts as trolling or not.

But in general, many type 3 trolls aren't very subtle so you will see on first sight that they're trolls.

Type 3 trolls also keep their personality after returning with a new account for example the famous 2Q1C.

Type 1 is difficult because they have multiple personalities. But dealing with them is mainly the the task of the staff. The only things we can do is block them and let the rest (duplicate account detection) to the staff members.

Smositional

TLDR; Blocking is the most effective weapon to keep clubs and threads clean from trolls. Everything else is the responsibility of the staff.

 

There is only a problem if the OP tolerates the troll. This way the troll can do whatever it wants.

In extreme cases there is only one way to deal with trolls. Report them if they breach the TOS.

52yrral

playerafar Thank you for your very pertinant post! Looiking forward to more,thanks again.

52yrral

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52yrral

TOS ....Terms Of Service

Smositional
playerafar wrote:

@Smositional
I don't know what "TLDR" is.  Forgot what TOS is.  I could google both.

Regarding blocking -
in some Clubs (I could name one - but will try to refrain)
the SuperAdmin or whever - actually asks people not to block.

Even though the favorite target of choice - for Type 1's -
is to target people who don't know of their existence.

In some Clubs - the idea is for that Club to restrict membership -
in such a way and to such a degree -
that members don't need to use their blocking options much.

In the Club I'm thinking about -
some of the louder and ruder and more offensive people -
get so "butthurt" about being blocked - by whoever
that they do everything they can to disrupt the Notes section.
The Club then "lets that go" with little moderation - as a kind of appeasement.

Ideally - I've got an opinion that its the reverse of that - that would work better.
Keep the Notes moderated and polite.
If people want to argue and scream and personally attack each other -
let them do it in threads.  Up to a point.
Where people can be more selective about what they read.
In cases where there's "counter-blocking" -
then you'll often see a situation that's a bit like battleships shelling each other from 20 miles away.
They attack each other from threads where they've blocked each other.

Are we going to get that on a site like this? Of course - its a chess site.
Have I done that sometimes?  Yes.  I'm "imperfect" ... I criticize what I see as trolling.
But in a Thread like this - where I avoid naming names - there's more efficiency.
Do I fail to be concise enough?  Yes.
Please forgive.  Others can be more concise.  Progress can be made.

TLDR; means too long don't read.

Smositional
playerafar wrote:

Okay.  But as I posted at the beginning -
the thread is meant partly for reference.
Most "long posts" still have less words than a page in most paperback novels.

I'd rather have comprehensiveness and qualification -
than to have ambiguity and vagueness and glibness and "cryptology"-
because something is too short and deficient.

Regarding categorizing the various type 3 behaviours -
I do intend to do so.
An issue is:  start off with a summarized list - and then details later ...
or just start off with the whole thing.  As in types 1 through 7 at start.
I'll figure it out eventually.

with TLDR; I meant my post not yours. Yours is totally fine. 

52yrral

Terms & conditions set out in the Chess.com membership agreement.

52yrral

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Smositional

 You could add another type 3 troll. The troll who posts completely unrelated and pointless comments in a thread. e.g. Thread about the Ruy Lopez: Caruana solved chess by playing checkers.