What Do Chess Players Think of Starcraft?

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Tiigerr

For those of you who don't know, StarCraft, and more recently StarCraft 2, is a popular real-time strategy game that is often compared to chess and that involves very similar concepts in terms of openings, middle game and end game, strategy, tactics and positioning.

There are different units with different abilities in the same sense that different pieces have different abilities. The major difference between the two is that while chess is turn-based, SC2 is played in real-time.

It's a multitasking heavy game that requires extremely high actions per minute and has therefor been called "Chess at a thousand miles an hour" by multiple personalities.

Here's a video attempting to show the similarities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCwJnzwH-Ec

 

Some StarCraft II highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi29QPudrOw

 

Here we can see the player "Squirtle" who fell far behind lure his opponent "MVP" into a massive trap and swiftly turn the tide of the game. He performed an "archon toilet" which is an extremely difficult series of moves to pull off, a high risk high reward type series of moves (And I wonder if anyone could show me a similar example in chess where a player was behind and lured his opponent into a trap):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0eg9h4iCek

 

This is a look at how fast you have to be, to be among the top tier of players. During openings and in the early game, most of his actions are a warmup as the player attempts to set his plan in motion. During the middle game to late game/end game however, he will need everyone one of those actions to perform complex tasks such as maneuvering his army, micro managing his units, constant adjustments to positioning, macro managing his base and structures, resource management, etc... while strategizing, employing tactics, making split second decisions and trying to outplay his opponent, all at the same time and in real-time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bexWuHmV32A

 

There's even an actual chess mod in the game and I wonder how many of you would fare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ12mA-kmIM

 

As someone who has played both Chess and StarCraft, I can appreciate both games and I'd love to hear what you guys think of StarCraft.

XDave121X

Archon toilet OP and imbalanced mechanic which only stayed due to OP blord infestor..

 

JK JK anyways Starcraft is a great game but i still think the original was better than starcraft 2 but both are still good

both chess and starcraft have some similarities are parallelisms ( idk if thats a word) in their metagame

SC2 has cheese while chess has booklines ( both are ways for noobs to beat masters , but sc2 is way more harsh unless you are cheesing code S players)

SC2 is not guaranteed to be balanced unless mirror match up which chess is considered to be more or less balanced (some people say white 55% black 45% chance to win)

I think sc2 more fun to watch for people who are not pro's on the game unlike chess which requires you to understand alot of it to appreciate brillant moves

Tiigerr
harryz wrote:

You join chess.com today and the first thing you do is ask about Starcraft?

StarCraft is actually what made me appreciate Chess even more and eSports is one of the reasons I lurk the chess.com forums, as odd as it may seem. So yes, it would only be appropriate.

SteveMini

Any kid who practices hard enough will eventually reach GM in Starcraft unless they're just bad at the game. On the other hand very few people will ever reach GM in Chess: it's far, far harder to do so. There's only 1,500ish GMs and hundreds of millions of people play chess I think.

Account_Suspended

no interest

nancypelosifeetpics
SteveMini wrote:

Any kid who practices hard enough will eventually reach GM in Starcraft unless they're just bad at the game. On the other hand very few people will ever reach GM in Chess: it's far, far harder to do so. There's only 1,500ish GMs and hundreds of millions of people play chess I think.

GM in Starcraft and GM in chess are two different things though. The path to becoming a GM in chess is associated with being a professional player. GM in Starcraft is only a ranking for people who participate in Blizzard's ranking system. The professionals in Starcraft are GM at a bare minimum and often have dozens of GM accounts just for practice. The true peak of Starcraft skill far surpasses the average GM level player and those who are at the top all exhibit very strong positioning and value decisions. Overall ranking of Starcraft players is based off total yearly tournament earnings. Starcraft is actually what got me into chess because of the similarities in deciding when to take engagements and how to position for those.