Why not wear a Mask ?

https://jennifermargulis.net/wearing-mask-can-harm-your-health/

Haven't worn one yet and have no intention of doing so. 

First of all my wife and I have already had covid so we won't be spreading it, and second, there's no no clear evidence they're of any use. 

Kruds funny. No clear evidence you can’t have it twice. And if you think there’s no clear evidence masks stop the spread of disease I wonder why surgeons have worn them all these years.

Surgeons usually wear them because they cut people open and they dont want to infect the open wound/cut with anything from them , ask a surgeon sometime ?

I generally do not wear a mask on my walks ... little or no contact with anybody.  But most stores and pharmacies require masks, so I keep one in the car.

Thanks reb, made my point. Stops them spreading germs. Didn’t need to ask a surgeon😉

There's plenty of evidence you can't get it twice, every other similar virus gives you immunity, no reason this would be different, that's why they're looking for a vacine. 

Like the flu vaccine you have every year?

I do have it every year but for different strains, they won't last forever but virus immunity can last ages, it's rare to get many well known viruses twice. Kids often get measles and have immunity well into adulthood. 

Like flu it is a virus. And like flu it has different strains. Do you think we should all drink some bleach to fight it off?

@hdbb8 It's easy for white people to blame non-white people for the spread of a virus in a predominantly white country. In China, despite the virus originating from Wuhan, the locals and even the media jumped on the bandwagon and started blaming non-Chinese for the spread of the outbreak. Guangzhou has a large black community, McDonald's and even other establishments AND residential communities in that city began barring entry to foreigners, and in their notice it said 'especially black people'.

You see what this type of behaviour is called is xenophobia and highlights your prejudiced views. I suppose it is normal in times of crisis that those people that make up the majority in one community blame the minorities for something bad that is happening. This also happened in Nazi Germany where one of the original excuses for rounding up Jewish people was that they were spreading viruses.

Anyway, there is an article here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/coronavirus-80-new-cases-trafford-among-white-community) that shows over 80% of the infections in the Greater Manchester area have been spread by white middle-classes.

The virus is not something we should be scared of. In Australia we just reached 200 hundred deaths, while from influenza last year 427 people died or something from the flu in Australia. Many many more people died of car accidents this year in Australia, much more than 200 people. If you doubt me, google it. Just please, Google it.

That’s a strawman argument and a pathetic one at that. Did the flu result in a 90% reduction in international air travel and a 32.9% contraction in US GDP?

The reason Australia, like New Zealand, has fared well so far is because 1) they closed the country off; and 2) you’re both large but sparsely populated islands far away from major population centres.

The problem with some people is they’re so short sighted they can’t see beyond or even contemplate the reality of what’s happening beyond their local or national boundaries.

Hey man calm down. The reason why the flu didn’t cause the airlines to shut down and the GDP to drop is because the government doesn’t shut down the economy every time the flu season hits.

Doesn’t this show everybody in the forums how selfish and ignorant you are? In Japan and most of east Asia we have managed to control the virus much better than the United States, Europe, and South America. A simple question, why? We learned our lessons from SARS. We wear masks and we follow the guidelines. We don’t put our own selfish views of ‘masks hiding my features and making me feel uncomfortable’ ahead of the safety and general social confidence that society as a whole is working together to stamp out coronavirus. My country invested so much to prepare the Olympics this summer but we had to call it off. You think we did that because of some conspiracy? Just because you haven’t seen some overwhelming evidence that masks stop spreading of coronavirus, you take it upon yourself to just not bother? There is a global epidemic going on and there will be millions dead before the end of the year, yet all you care about is how uncomfortable wearing a mask makes you feel, really? Is this what all people in Britain are like? Maybe it is no surprise then that Britain, United States and so many others are doing so very very bad at controlling the virus but countries like Japan, Korea, and even China where it started are doing much much much better. Maybe people in your countries need to take a good look in the mirror.

 

 

@hdbb8 Typical that you try to discredit someone and the evidence they provide by making inaccurate claims about the news source they used being the least credible in the UK.

In fact, in 2018 it won the award for being the most reliable. Moreover, research carried out by a peer reviewed journal (https://www.journalism.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2018/10/PJ_2018.10.30_europe-age_FINAL3.pdf) which, it should be noted, gathered data from more than 16,000 UK residents, as well as data from other Europeans and news sources in their countries, found that, again, the Guardian, along with the Times, are viewed as the two most reliable news sources in the UK.

The rest of your post just, including claims that I am ‘childish’ for comparing three (well documented) instances of ethnic minorities being blamed for the spread of viruses by the ethnic majorities in three different countries, well... that left me speechless.

Let’s be clear, you didn’t actually find evidence which suggested what I said was inaccurate, all you did was use your own personal opinion about a news source not matching your own view which pins the blame on a particular minority ethnic group. Then, in a rather bizarre way, you tried to round it off by appearing to suggest that because your ancestors were related to a particular ethnic group, bringing up the (well documented) fact that one of the excuses the Nazis used to begin their segregation of Jews was because they blamed them for the spread of viruses, is invalid.

I’m sorry, let me break it to you. You don’t need to be Jewish to highlight the way they were mistreated (before the concentration camps) the same way you don’t need to be black or another ethnic minority to highlight people’s misguided views that an entire minority group, in your case, your claim of British Asians, being responsible for the spread of a virus throughout the country is their fault.

How about people work together and support each other during this time by following guidelines rather than only caring about ourselves and blaming others?

There’s also no point blaming any particular minority ethnic group for the spread of the virus when, as you posted earlier, you have all kinds of excuses for not even following the guidelines yourself. What does that make you?

You guys are funny. How can is it right or wrong to wear a mask turn in to thatcher, politics and the ‘we dont serve our own agenda’ British press! Lol

next thing you know mandatory vaccine...