Ah yes because the state of Palestine has done nothing
As Chess.com takes no stance on the genocide in Gaza I have ended my membership
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Feb 13, 2024
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Actually I think both your suggestions to take a stance on Gaza and Chess.com stance on greying the flags of Russia and Belarus are very wrong.
By now, we could be greying a good number of flags for this or that political reason!
Sports and games should be a place of peace and welcoming everyone, not another place of conflict, propaganda or oppression.
Not everyone in Israel and Russia are doing harm to others, so the flag of these players, that is a mark of their identity and culture, was greyed without fairness to them.
Please stop bringing politics to everything and everywhere. We come to play not to be bothered with propaganda.
@arpatma: I see your point on keeping politics out of it. It might very well have been a bad decision from the outset to grey out the Russian flag. Maybe chess.com should always allow all flags? Or as some chess sites do, forget about all them flags.
My point nevertheless still stands. Since chess.com already have engaged in politics by greying out the russian flag, it is highly problematic not to follow up with the same course of action in similar, and in this case, worse, situations.
Feb 14, 2024
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Palestinians led by Hamas started the war (yet again). On 7th October tortured, raped, slaughtered thousands innocents and I've seen Palestinians celebrating this terrorists attack not only in Gaza but in Europe and worldwide as well. Not to mention Israel is being carpet rocketed for years with thousands of rockets yearly hitting civilian targets on daily basis.
Local conflict and I am absolutely not interested, thank you. Palestinians chose war, they have it, end of story. I hope Chess.com will start blocking politic discussions.
I have great sympathy with the OP.
Instead of looking at the hypocrisy and the underlying question of why the USA and the business community — including Chess.com — is ruled over by people with two passports, it is best perhaps to approach the matter selfishly but to carry on enjoying chess. To wit, indeed withdraw from paid membership, but observe that Chess.com is a prisoner of sorts of the American zeitgeist. I sense Chess.com realises the impossible task of "condemning" Russia while refraining from condemning those "thou shalt not criticise".
To criticise the Palestinians is to criticise the Sioux and Chyenne for fighting the 7th Cavalry. Chief Sitting Bull did not start the war. The Palestinians aren't even allowed reservation status on their own land. Since the late 40s they have been ethnically cleansed from their own land.
Feb 14, 2024
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Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:
I have great sympathy with the OP.
Instead of looking at the hypocrisy and the underlying question of why the USA and the business community — including Chess.com — is ruled over by people with two passports, it is best perhaps to approach the matter selfishly but to carry on enjoying chess. To wit, indeed withdraw from paid membership, but observe that Chess.com is a prisoner of sorts of the American zeitgeist. I sense Chess.com realises the impossible task of "condemning" Russia while refraining from condemning those "thou shalt not criticise".
To criticise the Palestinians is to criticise the Sioux and Chyenne for fighting the 7th Cavalry. Chief Sitting Bull did not start the war. The Palestinians aren't even allowed reservation status on their own land. Since the late 40s they have been ethnically cleansed from their own land.
I am not even an Israel supporter - literally don't care about their conflict. But one thing is totally clear to me, Palestine supporters studied their history from Quran and facts do matter very little in this conflict. Judea a.k.a Palestine is homeland of Jews for millenia whilst Palestinians are originally Bedouin Arabs, so your comparison to native Americans is little bit vague in the very least. We don't even have to go that far in history, check Jewish and Muslim population of Palestine in 1900s and 1920s and what you'll realise is 1/5 of the local population was Jewish before Israel was even established.
Also worth mentioning Islam has been established in 7th century and at that time all Middle east was Christian/Jewish. Muslims simply breed way too fast compared to others and take over regions that way. In 100 years from today when Europe becomes Islamic bastion Muslims will say that Europe was always theirs as now they claim the same about Middle East.
So if you want to discuss history, say it all or just stick to the presence.
Feb 14, 2024
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If the Israeli flag is greyed out, they will mistake it for Russia's gray flag.
Maybe a different color?
The ICJ (International Court of Justice) did not say whether Israel as a whole nation committed genocide against the people of Palestine. Maybe only some soldiers did it.
But I am not sure whether this is allowed by the forum rules.
Following the Russian aggression on Ukraine Chess.com decided to grey out all Russian flags on the site.
The genocide happening right now in Gaza is the darkest moment and most vile stately conduct our world has seen in the last 80 years.
Following the minimal symbolic act of greying out the Russian flag chess.com is obliged to take at the very least the same measure towards the Israeli flag.
With this message I am encouraging all other users to stop supporting chess.com. Myself I have discontinued my paid membership and will delete my account in the following days.