Can we PLEASE stop castling by clicking the rook?

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Onlysane1

When I have the king selected, but I click the rook, it is because I want to move the rook, not because I want to castle. Can't count how many games I messed up because of this. I just lost an 8-game winning streak to this.

If I want to castle, I'll click the square I want my king to castle to; period. There's a visual indicator for this. There is NOT a visual indicator that clicking the rook will castle.

Please change the UI so that clicking the rook while the king is selected will select the rook, not castle the king. Or, at least give some visual indicator that clicking the rook will castle. Thank you.

KevinOSh

I don't understand. You don't want to castle. Are you saying that you want to move the rook and you select the king and then you select rook? What does the king have to do with anything?

baddogno

That's how they castle in 960.  Doubt if they'll change it although in a perfect world they would. wink.png

Onlysane1
KevinOSh wrote:

I don't understand. You don't want to castle. Are you saying that you want to move the rook and you select the king and then you select rook? What does the king have to do with anything?

As I'm trying to decide what piece to move, I might decide to castle, clicking the king, but then decide that just moving the rook would be a better decision. I then click the rook, and I castle instead. Or, I'm just habitually cycling through my pieces as I consider moves.

I guess my main issue is that there is no visual indicator that clicking that rook will castle. This problem hasn't come up too often, but enough to be a nuisance.

introuble2

Have lost many games like this, too. But as @baddogno said, it's how one castles in 960, so it's unlikely to change it; same platform. I was just wondering if techs could limit this kind of castling only by dragging K over R, and not just clicking. This would limit the move only to intended ones.

MrDogFace

that is cheating.  you touch it you move it. So, you click it you move it.

Onlysane1
MrDogFace wrote:

that is cheating.  you touch it you move it. So, you click it you move it.

Chess.com isn't FIDE. If it was cheating, the website wouldn't allow it.

Onlysane1
Optimissed wrote:
Onlysane1 wrote:

When I have the king selected, but I click the rook, it is because I want to move the rook, not because I want to castle. Can't count how many games I messed up because of this. I just lost an 8-game winning streak to this.

If I want to castle, I'll click the square I want my king to castle to; period. There's a visual indicator for this. There is NOT a visual indicator that clicking the rook will castle.

Please change the UI so that clicking the rook while the king is selected will select the rook, not castle the king. Or, at least give some visual indicator that clicking the rook will castle. Thank you.

If you always use drag rather than click when you've been hovering with your mouse, what you speak of couldn't happen and it's possibly slightly faster to drag.

I don't drag because I'll sometimes release the mouse button before I mean to, and place the piece on the wrong square.

CastawayWill

This is a good idea, but I don't see any way this could be fixed

jde

I just lost a game because of this. If they want to have this "feature" there needs to be a visual indicator and a way to get out of it. As it stands, once you've clicked your kind it is impossible to move your rook without castling. 

BlueHen86

I've never encountered this problem. Is this something that needs to be fixed? Or should people just be more careful?

Claralively
Something that might help, you can go to settings>Live Chess. There, you can turn on Confirm Each Move.
MaetsNori
Optimissed wrote:

Just click the king a second time and it should deselect it.

^ This.

idilis
Optimissed wrote:

Just click the king a second time and it should deselect it.

Please do not offer solutions when all we need is for you to listen while we complain ad nauseum. This is chess.com. please respect our ways.

teju17

Never lost any games because of this, but I've noticed this flaw. My suggestion would to remove the feature that we can castle if we move the king into the rooks place. That would solve it.

teju17

Ahh I'm on mobile so I can't edit my message to remove the typos, sorry for the bad english

EvargaloPuch

I understand the problem, it also happened to me.

EvargaloPuch

It has also happened to me. Playing from a smartphone, click is safer than drag to avoid "misdrags".

EvargaloPuch

The thing is, when I think I might play a piece, I often click it before choosing its destination square. Say I am hesitating between Bc4 and Bd3, I already click on my Bf1 and keep thinking. If I finally decide to play Nc3 instead, I don't have to un click my bishop: I just click my knight, then its destination square, and the bishop is unclicked automatically. In blitz, I often do the first click on my opponent time, e.g. if I think "on any development move I will answer 0-0" I already click my Ke1, and if he plays Be7 I just click on g1 to get castled, saving some time. What if he plays something unexpected, like Ng4 blundering into Qf3xg4? I just click my Qf3, the Ke1 is automatically unclicked, and I play Qxg4. This is the normal feature and I use it so often that I expect it to function automatically. But now imagine that I need to play my Ra1 (e.g., he played Qa5? blundering into Rxa5, or Qf6 threatening Qxa1). I want to move my Ra1 and click it quite confident that I will capture Rxa5 and win: Horror, the Ke1 doesn't get unclicked, 0-0-0?? appears on the board, probably followed by Qa1#.

EvargaloPuch

A simple solution would be to have a choice in the settings about castling, just like we have one for always promoting to queen or not. You must select at least one option among : "move the king to its destination square" and "move the king to its rook's square". People who never face the problem described can keep both boxes checked. People who are annoyed with it will keep only the first one. In Chess960, only the second option is active.