Can't reset puzzle rating anymore?

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fschmitz422

I haven't been very active lately, my puzzle solving ability has become quity rusty. To get back in, I reset my puzzle history, to re-start at beginner level. Still, I am getting puzzles in the 2000s right from the start. Plus nonsense about "wood class" and animations, which I apparently can't turn off (combobox disabled on settings page).

What I want, and what was possible earlier on this site: Repeatedly reset my rating to something like 400, solve tons of puzzles which slowly become more difficult to get to sthg. like 1800, and measure the time how long it took me to get there (i.e. look it up on the stats page). Without animations or hints or other nonsense.

Martin_Stahl
fschmitz422 wrote:

I haven't been very active lately, my puzzle solving ability has become quity rusty. To get back in, I reset my puzzle history, to re-start at beginner level. Still, I am getting puzzles in the 2000s right from the start. Plus nonsense about "wood class" and animations, which I apparently can't turn off (combobox disabled on settings page).

What I want, and what was possible earlier on this site: Repeatedly reset my rating to something like 400, solve tons of puzzles which slowly become more difficult to get to sthg. like 1800, and measure the time how long it took me to get there (i.e. look it up on the stats page). Without animations or hints or other nonsense.

There is a new and improved system for how puzzles are rated that some members have access to. Currently, the interface still shows the old puzzle ratings/system though. My understanding is what you're seeing is expected because of that.

As to Puzzle Points, you can disable that by clicking the settings icon on the feature and toggle off Collect Puzzle Points 

fschmitz422

Looks like I had to log off and on again to have the reset take effect. Now it works as it used to.

Hopefully the "new and improved system" won't screw that up again.

Anyway, thanks for answering!

fschmitz422

Turns out that logging off and on again does not really do the trick. I may get an easy one or two, but then it jumps right up to e.g. 2300 again, which is way too hard for me currently.

I'm not really sure what to make of your first answer: Does that mean that I cannot reset my rating anymore because of the "new and improved system", only it is not available for me? - And why would that be "expected"?

br

Martin_Stahl
fschmitz422 wrote:

Turns out that logging off and on again does not really do the trick. I may get an easy one or two, but then it jumps right up to e.g. 2300 again, which is way too hard for me currently.

I'm not really sure what to make of your first answer: Does that mean that I cannot reset my rating anymore because of the "new and improved system", only it is not available for me? - And why would that be "expected"?

br

Based on your description, you're getting the new method and it's going to use that for puzzle selection. The shown puzzle rating is from the original system and my understanding is that those ratings may not be as accurate as the new

TheKingCharlesCav

This is happening to me too. After resetting my puzzle history, each puzzle i'm presented with is quite high in rating, and it seems sporadic. I was even given a 3700 rated puzzle! Logging out of my account didn't work. I hope there is a workaround, I'd much prefer how it used to work with puzzles gradually getting harder to match my puzzle rating.

Martin_Stahl
TheKingCharlesCav wrote:

This is happening to me too. After resetting my puzzle history, each puzzle i'm presented with is quite high in rating, and it seems sporadic. I was even given a 3700 rated puzzle! Logging out of my account didn't work. I hope there is a workaround, I'd much prefer how it used to work with puzzles gradually getting harder to match my puzzle rating.

There's no workaround but the rating showing on the puzzles is the old ratings and not the updated ones which can be a lot different.

fschmitz422

Nah, that's not about the puzzle ratings. The ratings of the puzzles make sense, at least they are not completely off. Also my puzzle-rating is correctly displayed. The only thing that seems to be broken now is the algorithm (or the underlying data) with which puzzles for a user with a given puzzle rating are selected. After that user has reset his rating.

Ok, I'm trying to follow you here: In theory the algorithm could be correct, and the (erroneously displayed) puzzle ratings are completely different from the (real, new) ratings, used for selection. Only in this case, the new 'real' ratings are already (or still) completely off, and I don't thinks so, because the puzzles in the 2000's I was given are at least much closer to 2000 than to 400. And one way or the other: For someone who has reset his rating the system is no longer usable.

Martin, btw: I'm having difficulty getting the grammar of "There's no work to but the ...." - Some kind of typo maybe?

fschmitz422

(I've posted a bug report now. )

Martin_Stahl
fschmitz422 wrote:

Nah, that's not about the puzzle ratings. The ratings of the puzzles make sense, at least they are not completely off. Also my puzzle-rating is correctly displayed. The only thing that seems to be broken now is the algorithm (or the underlying data) with which puzzles for a user with a given puzzle rating are selected. After that user has reset his rating.

Ok, I'm trying to follow you here: In theory the algorithm could be correct, and the (erroneously displayed) puzzle ratings are completely different from the (real, new) ratings, used for selection. Only in this case, the new 'real' ratings are already (or still) completely off, and I don't thinks so, because the puzzles in the 2000's I was given are at least much closer to 2000 than to 400. And one way or the other: For someone who has reset his rating the system is no longer usable.

Martin, btw: I'm having difficulty getting the grammar of "There's no work to but the ...." - Some kind of typo maybe?

As I mentioned, there's new code that some members are getting that change how the ratings are working and explain what you're seeing. It's a planned change.

That last part was a typo and I have edited my previous post.

fschmitz422
Martin_Stahl wrote:

It's a planned change.

Now I'm really getting worried: Are you actually saying that it is on purpose that we get puzzles of (seemingly) random difficulty now?

Well, in that case you managed to perfectly confuse me with "Currently, the interface still shows the old puzzle ratings/system though. My understanding is what you're seeing is expected because of that."

I can see that users with high ratings reach their final rating faster with a system that builds the user's raing from responses to puzzles with very different ratings. Only it destroys my most effective training method.

TheKingCharlesCav

It started working normally for me a couple days ago. So I did about 45 puzzles and as my rating started to climb, each puzzle was appropriately rated to match with my new rating. I stopped at around 1000 puzzle rating. Now today I started to do some puzzles and the puzzles I'm presented with are 2500 rating. So it's failing again. I hope this gets fixed it's been a bit of a nuisance for me as I'd like to get back to doing some rated puzzles. Thank you for help!

fschmitz422
TheKingCharlesCav wrote:

It started working normally for me a couple days ago. So I did about 45 puzzles and as my rating started to climb, each puzzle was appropriately rated to match with my new rating. I stopped at around 1000 puzzle rating. Now today I started to do some puzzles and the puzzles I'm presented with are 2500 rating. So it's failing again. I hope this gets fixed it's been a bit of a nuisance for me as I'd like to get back to doing some rated puzzles. Thank you for help!

My understanding now is that all this is on purpose. Apparently you now have also been shifted into the group of users that fall victim to the new system. Probably their reasoning was: New users can reach puzzles of adequate difficulty faster if we give them puzzles of mixed difficulty. Only there seems to be a significant groups of users who simply don't want this, but instead get puzzles of slowly increasing difficulty, as before.

TheKingCharlesCav

I wouldn't have a problem with it so much except when i solve a 2500+ rated puzzle i only get 20-30 points. like if it would quickly let me get to my normal rating level it wouldn't be bad. The other problem is it's so random: sometimes i'm getting an 800 rated puzzle followed by a 2400 rated one. even though I've solved the prior ones correctly.

TheKingCharlesCav

This started happening to me again, please help!

Haris_Eldon
fschmitz422 wrote:
TheKingCharlesCav wrote:

It started working normally for me a couple days ago. So I did about 45 puzzles and as my rating started to climb, each puzzle was appropriately rated to match with my new rating. I stopped at around 1000 puzzle rating. Now today I started to do some puzzles and the puzzles I'm presented with are 2500 rating. So it's failing again. I hope this gets fixed it's been a bit of a nuisance for me as I'd like to get back to doing some rated puzzles. Thank you for help!

My understanding now is that all this is on purpose. Apparently you now have also been shifted into the group of users that fall victim to the new system. Probably their reasoning was: New users can reach puzzles of adequate difficulty faster if we give them puzzles of mixed difficulty. Only there seems to be a significant groups of users who simply don't want this, but instead get puzzles of slowly increasing difficulty, as before.

The ratings are consistently wrong. I got a 400 rated puzzle that had a solve rate of 15%. It almost seems arbitrary now.

https://www.chess.com/puzzles/problem/1137526

for example.

justbefair

Anyone getting anywhere on this.?

There was a new member this morning surprised that she was served high rating puzzles to begin with.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/extremely-high-puzzle-rating-right-away

TheKingCharlesCav

i filed bug report with support a couple days ago but didn't get any response yet.

Mikhael-M
Where is the puzzle