um, Are you pretty sure that rapid gets fewer trophies? I'm not confident with that point @nTzT because I got proof here. Blitz and bullet get fewer trophies than Rapid. Take a look at the League Intros
The thought process of average chess.com staff member (lol)
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Joking aside, his point is it takes more than 3x longer to play a 10 minute game, so you should earn about 3x more trophies (compared to a 3 minute game).
um, Are you pretty sure that rapid gets fewer trophies? I'm not confident with that point @nTzT because I got proof here. Blitz and bullet get fewer trophies than Rapid. Take a look at the League Intros
Joking aside, his point is it takes more than 3x longer to play a 10-minute game, so you should earn about 3x more trophies (compared to a 3-minute game).
Ok, I understand. But I don't see a reasonable fault in rapid games. Rapid gives you more time to think about your moves and the game. Blitz and bullets are fast enough but a problem of less time. Especially in endgames and long games Rapids are useful so you don't lose by timeout. In my opinion, I state that chess.com has done a good job in considering rapids with more trophies. If I am wrong, Kindly correct me
How many account do you have anyway?
Joking aside, his point is it takes more than 3x longer to play a 10-minute game, so you should earn about 3x more trophies (compared to a 3-minute game).
Ok, I understand. But I don't see a reasonable fault in rapid games. Rapid gives you more time to think about your moves and the game. Blitz and bullets are fast enough but a problem of less time. Especially in endgames and long games Rapids are useful so you don't lose by timeout. In my opinion, I state that chess.com has done a good job in considering rapids with more trophies. If I am wrong, Kindly correct me
You are wrong, very wrong. This isn't about what you think it is. You can simply complete more blitz/bullet games and earn twice as many trophies. It's simply about grinding the trophies out and not playing proper Chess. This is unfair to those that prefer longer time controls.
Joking aside, his point is it takes more than 3x longer to play a 10-minute game, so you should earn about 3x more trophies (compared to a 3-minute game).
Ok, I understand. But I don't see a reasonable fault in rapid games. Rapid gives you more time to think about your moves and the game. Blitz and bullets are fast enough but a problem of less time. Especially in endgames and long games Rapids are useful so you don't lose by timeout. In my opinion, I state that chess.com has done a good job in considering rapids with more trophies. If I am wrong, Kindly correct me
You are wrong, very wrong. This isn't about what you think it is. You can simply complete more blitz/bullet games and earn twice as many trophies. It's simply about grinding the trophies out and not playing proper Chess. This is unfair to those that prefer longer time controls.
Pretty sure dude's trolling.
Joking aside, his point is it takes more than 3x longer to play a 10-minute game, so you should earn about 3x more trophies (compared to a 3-minute game).
Ok, I understand. But I don't see a reasonable fault in rapid games. Rapid gives you more time to think about your moves and the game. Blitz and bullets are fast enough but a problem of less time. Especially in endgames and long games Rapids are useful so you don't lose by timeout. In my opinion, I state that chess.com has done a good job in considering rapids with more trophies. If I am wrong, Kindly correct me
You are wrong, very wrong. This isn't about what you think it is. You can simply complete more blitz/bullet games and earn twice as many trophies. It's simply about grinding the trophies out and not playing proper Chess. This is unfair to those that prefer longer time controls.
Pretty sure dude's trolling.
Hard to be that stupid, but it's common sadly.
You told that we can earn twice the number of trophies we get in rapid by playing a lot of blitz/bullet games.
For example, You played 20 blitz games and I play 3 rapid games in which we won all of them. But still, you don't get twice the number of trophies than rapid as you mentioned.
(20x2= 40 trophies playing blitz, 3x15= 45 trophies playing rapid. 5 trophies more than blitz
You gain 9 trophies per win in blitz, making 180 trophies in 20 won games. You get 15 trophies per win in rapid, making 45 trophies in 3 won games. If in both cases all time is spent, blitz takes 120 minutes, while rapid takes 60 minutes. Therefore, blitz makes 180 trophies/120 minutes, which is 90 trophies per hour, while rapid makes 45 trophies per hour.
You told that we can earn twice the number of trophies we get in rapid by playing a lot of blitz/bullet games.
For example, You played 20 blitz games and I play 3 rapid games in which we won all of them. But still, you don't get twice the number of trophies than rapid as you mentioned.
(20x2= 40 trophies playing blitz, 3x15= 45 trophies playing rapid. 5 trophies more than blitz
You gain 9 trophies per win in blitz, making 180 trophies in 20 won games. You get 15 trophies per win in rapid, making 45 trophies in 3 won games. If in both cases all time is spent, blitz takes 120 minutes, while rapid takes 60 minutes. Therefore, blitz makes 180 trophies/120 minutes, which is 90 trophies per hour, while rapid makes 45 trophies per hour.
@ninja888 I said that in reply to what he said. He said that by playing blitz, users can make twice what they win in rapid. I feel it pretty difficult to believe it. How do you make twice the number of trophies in blitz than rapid when you get 15 trophies per win? I gave that example relating to the theory @nTzT said.
I dont understand what you mean. I just showed that blitz makes 90 trophies/hour and rapid makes 45 trophies/hour under the circumstance that each game is won and that each game took the maximum amount of time with the time controls 3|0 and 10|0 respectively.
Here's what I can say altogether:
You play 20 blitz games and I play 13 rapid games in which we won all of them.
(20x9= 180 trophies playing blitz, 13x15= 195 trophies playing rapid. 15 trophies more than blitz)
However, 20 blitz games would take 120 minutes at max in 3|0, while 13 rapid games will take 260 minutes at max in 10|0. There is an obvious 140 minute difference.
Look at this math. Is it right now where rapid gets more value than blitz?
No. The others get 3 trophies per average minute played. Rapid gets 1.5. It really is that simple.
Blitz games are faster. You can play 3.333 Blitz games while you can only play one rapid game in the same time on average.
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Blitz/Bullet get around 3 trophies per minute, while rapid gets 1.5. Why give slower time controls such a massive disadvantage? Not sure if I care enough to even bother trying to figure out why this is but I feel like it's trying to force people to play faster time controls.
I guess Rapid gives more trophies than blitz and bullet. That sounds fun to me! You're getting time to think and play more tactically with a great number of trophies if you win a game.
Also, you can't blame that Rapids are the reason for the uprise in Leaderboards. Most people also get at least 1.5K trophies by only playing blitz...
You have it backwards, Rapid gets less. Right now it's natural for the more popular time control to be in the leaderboards, but it doesn't make it fair or explain why Rapid gets HALF the trophies that Blitz/Bullet does.
Well, I don't know that it's half in practice. I mean, how easy is it to finish a 10|0 game with 5 minutes on your clock? Pretty easy yeah? But finishing a 1|0 game with 30 seconds on your clock is a lot harder.
There are plenty of noobs who start 30|0 games and spend 2 minutes each. So if I had to guess it's because of these things.
Still doesn't explain why you get more trophies for bullet arena.