Draw by repetition rule change

You do not understand the rules. To claim a draw, it has to be both sides (not just the player who is losing) who repeat their moves. If this happens it is a draw. And it's a very good rule.

Another way of looking at this is that I often find that people who are winning think that their opponent should help by making certain moves or making moves quickly. The fact is your opponent can make whatever moves they like as long as they are legal. If those moves result in a three-fold repetition and a draw, I would say, well played to the opponent!

 Whine to FIDE about it; they make the rules.

play good to avoid the draw. that's what good players do.

If you're winning and get yourself in a position where conceding to your opponents wish for repetition is your best move, then you deserve a draw as opposed to a win.  You blew your lead.  It's a good rule; sounds like you're just mad that you got burned by it.

everything here is you being annoyed that you in short missed a tactic that your opponent used. this is like saying that forks should be banned because people can win losing positions with this tactic. 

the bit in red is completely incorrect. good players see that the draw by repetition can be played out and prevent it with a superior move.  

Clearly you don't understand the rules either.  It is repetition of position, not repetition of moves.

If the same position occurs 3 times with the same player to move, said player having the same legal options, a draw can be claimed.  Moves do not need to be repeated.

I had a game over the board where Black has pawns on a6, b5, and c4, along with a Knight.  I had literally the two Bishops and that was it.  We repeated 3 times - Moves 53-White, 58-White, and 62-White.  It doesn't matter how you arrive at the position.  The same position occurred 3 times, all with Black to move, and not like Black had castling or en passant rights the first time, he had the same legal option all 3 times.

Now the fact that the OP is whining in bi*ching about this, and calling the player with extra material the "Good Player", quite frankly, if you are up that much material, and you can't avoid 3-fold repetition, how "Good" exactly are you?

The OP is nothing more than a clown that is clueless on how to win a game of chess!  The only thing maintaining it's status as "a joke" is the author of the original post!

Let me guess - if you went to www.charlottechesscenter.com, clicked on "Blog" in the upper right, and went through the 3rd game of the 4 games in the article on The Art of the Miracle Draw, then White in game 3 (which was me, played over the board), should be given a loss because Black makes a blunder on move 30 and White brilliantly finds a way to force perpetual check down a full Queen???  Black was a 2400+ player, by the way, and of course, I wasn't down a queen at the start, I was down a piece for two pawns, but allow promotion by Black just to draw by perpetual check!

GET REAL BOZO!

The only way to win a chess game if your opponent does not resign or lose on time is for you to CHECKMATE him.  

You should probably work on that.

Well trolled my friend, well trolled.

If a repetition exists, then they aren't defeated.

Op You are saying it is not ok for your opponent to make legal moves. If tje best moves happen to be the same ones, whats wrong with making them?

This is also a fallacy as you are assuming the person doing the repetition is the one losing. What if you have a queen vs king endgame and the guy withthe queen is an idiot and ends up perpetually checking you? Why should he lose when you have no winning chances in the first place. This is the fundamental flaw with all these anti-stalemate and anti-repetition thread, assuming the player who made it a draw was originally losing or winning. Every position is different. There was also a person here who said rep should be a win for the checker since he got his opponent into an inescapable loop. You do not know the reason the guy deliberately did repetition, if it was even deliberate. Sometimes when you are extremely low on time in blitz, it is better to go for stalemate/repetition if you have under a second left and no time to force mate.

I have played about 1170 games here total and I have had quite a few perpetual checks, or my king was in a crappy position so eventually it would be perpetual...whatever, i just offered a draw, said gg and moved on. That's what makes chess fun, the game can change in an instant! One time I was up a queen and rook and then got mated by 2 bishops and a knight in the middlegame! It was a really cool game and i am sure the reverse has happened. These people arguing against the basic rules of chess don 't understand why the rules need to be what they are. How else should repetition end a game other than draw? It's one thing to argue about whether one should be able to castle through check..etc, at least debatable, but repetition can only be a draw.

Repetitions are less likely by weaker players as usually half the pieces have been exchanged off (including the queens usually) and someone has a decisive material advantage by move 20.

I'm not surprised you've had none in 2000 games.

Repetition isn't a sign of weak play, it's just a way of drawing.

its an old thread but i have a question regarding that: In a recent game i was down 2 pawns in the endgame but with different colored bishops.  I managed to get a position were i was able to block his advancing pawns. Then in this position my Opponent repeated moves with his king on different squares. So it was not recognized as repetition due to the slightly different positions. He made no progression. How long can he do that if i do the same two moves over and over again? tu

The whole position has to repeat three times, with all pieces on the same squares, and the same side to move each time (also if en passant was possible in the first occurrence it doesn't count and if castling was possible in the first, it has to be in the latter or it doesn't count).

So, if the position doesn't repeat, and there are no captures or pawn moves, it would be drawn after 50 moves since the last capture or pawn move. 

oh ok. Thank you for the Answer.

That means in this particular game one could avoid the draw until 50 move rule hits. Because he could move his bishop on 2 diagonals and the king to 7 squares,  gives everytime a new position.