Flipping the board

Could we get a feature so we can flip the analysis board you reach when you are examining a game reached through the Explore function?

Both the Analysis Board (that you reach by clicking on Analyse) and Game Explorer (reached by clicking on Explore) already have a Flip Board option.

All right.

Take an example such as: http://www.chess.com/explorer/analysis.html?id=135080

Where is the flip option?

I am not saying it is not there, mind you. I just can't find it.

Hmm... where's the original game you started from?

I dunno. Does it matter? Every time I move from a game found through the Explore function onto the analysis board from within the game -- say at move 25, I click the analysis function, then I get a board that cannot be flipped.

So I do the obvious, I stand on my head to do my study. But then the pieces are upside down!

;-)

Here is an example. http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=767041

When I try to use the analysis board I get no flipper.

I want my Flipper!

;-)

Flipping the board is considered quite rude outside of the greater NYC area.

 Is flipping the board considered quite kind inside of the greater NYC area?

If not accompanied by profanity then yes.

Tourist walks up to a New York native and asks, "Can you tell me how to get to the Empire State Building, or should I go f... myself?"

Ivandh:

A flip is considered incomplete and borderline rude if NOT accompanied with a profanity of at least two words, more if you really appreciate what the person has been doing.

orr in live chess?  it would be  nice to flip the board there also

When looking at a board on your computer screen, you're not looking at the board from either player's perspective, you have a bird's-eye view. You shouldn't need to inverse the board such that your back rank is the lowest rank on your screen. You will improve your chess if you get used to looking at the board from either perspective, regardless of colour.

That is true, and when I am really good, I will be able to visualize the entire board in my head while I read my chess books in bed.

In the meantime, where is my flipper?

Are we talking about the same thing: Turn-based chess games - NOT Live chess?

When I click on Analyse (starting from a game board), I get this ...

FLIP button clearly visible.

When I click on Explore (from the Analysis Board), I get this ...

Again, FLIP button clearly visible.

I see no EXPLORE directly from the game - only by going via the Analysis Board.

I rather suspect that the flipping of the analysis board has always been one of the 'tells' used to catch cheaters.

Forgive me. How does flipping the Analysis board help detect anything?

think about it, if someone playing black is putting the position into an engine they are very likely to flip the board first to make it easier to set up.  I'm not saying that that alone means anything, but in conjunction with other things - it would help to establish a pattern.

Archaic:

No, that hadn't occured to me. Cheating hadn't occured to me. If it had, my rating would be a lot higher. As it is, when it is above 1400 when I get up in the morning my coffee tastes better. If I were cheating, wouldn't it be higher, unless of course I very bad at chess AND at cheating. ;-)

Couldn't you just cut and paste the PGN, anyway?

Here is what I do. I grew up before computers so book chess is comfortable for me to use. I have some of the highly recommended books on certain openings. I find an opening in a book similar to the one I am playing and then find through the Explorer a master's game similar to the book and the opponent.

Then I follow the book annotations on how the two games (book and Explorer) proceed. I think I learn a lot by seeing in the book: "Knight to f6 is tempting, but 13 moves later [and the book gives the line] black has concede." Now I have learned to never move Nf6 at that point, right?

I can't conceive of this as cheating. This is the point of correspondance chess, no?

It is hard for me to compare the annotations in the book with those in the analysis board from Explorer and with my game in progress (three games) if they all don't have black and white in the same position.

The screen shot includes everything I see when I open the analysis board from within a game while I am in the Explore function.

Archaic:

If somehow flipping the board is in fact connected to cheating and that is why chess.com limits its use, that of course is fine.

It is still inconvenient but by seeing the logic behind the decision, it would be easier to live with, just as by understanding why you don't want to go Nf6 at a certain point makes the concept easier to understand.

Flipping certainly doesn't need to be the issue of the century.